From: Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt•net>
To: Michael G Schwern <schwern@pobox•com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>,
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail•com>,
git@vger•kernel.org, robbat2@gentoo•org,
Ben Walton <bwalton@artsci•utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: OT: mail-based interfaces and web-based interfaces (Re: Extract
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 03:10:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120726031048.GA8034@dcvr.yhbt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5010AC7B.6020805@pobox.com>
Michael G Schwern <schwern@pobox•com> wrote:
> On 2012.7.25 4:48 PM, Eric Wong wrote:
> > We need to use something. Right now our choice of mailer is the best
> > choice for _existing_ contributors.
>
> I believe this entire discussion can be reduced to that right there.
>
> If your process is optimized for existing contributors, it will work well for
> existing contributors, who will want to optimize it for themselves. Repeat.
> If the main way you evaluate your process is asking "is this more convenient
> for me" then you're probably in that spiral.
>
> This creates a process very well tuned to the existing contributors, and its
> very convenient for them. But the consequence is it becomes more and more
> work for a new contributor to join.
The process is _not_ a lot of work. At least no more than any other
project: observe the regulars -> imitate the regulars
Many/most regular git contributors are not Linux kernel developers, yet
were able to quickly able to get up-to-speed with git. AFAIK, the Linux
kernel gets plenty of new contributors every year, too.
> Before talking about anything else, the existing contributors have to ask
> themselves a simple question: Do we care about getting new contributors?
Yes, if contributors are willing to learn/respect existing conventions.
We do take time to help new contributors out :)
For me, it's certainly "no" if there's any endorsement of
non-Free Software or centralized/commercial services involved.
> The answer can be "no" ("yes, but not if I'm inconvenienced" is a no). Maybe
> you're happy with the people you've got. But there's no point in getting into
> detail until that's settled.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-26 3:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-17 0:53 Fix git-svn tests for SVN 1.7.5 Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 17:44 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-17 18:58 ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:13 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (4/10) (was Re: Fix git-svn tests for SVN 1.7.5.) Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:14 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (5/10) " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:05 ` Find .pm files automatically " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-18 0:01 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-18 1:41 ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-18 2:14 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-17 23:12 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (2/10) " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-18 0:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-18 10:58 ` Eric Wong
2012-07-19 0:11 ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:13 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (3/10) " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-18 0:12 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-17 23:16 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (6/10) " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:16 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (7/10) " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:17 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (8/10) " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:17 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (9/10) " Michael G Schwern
2012-07-17 23:17 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (10/10) " Michael G Schwern
[not found] ` <5005F139.8050205@pobox.com>
2012-07-17 23:31 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (1/10) " Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-18 5:49 ` Extract Git classes from git-svn (1/10) Junio C Hamano
2012-07-19 3:43 ` Thiago Farina
2012-07-24 22:38 ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-24 23:25 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-25 2:55 ` Eric Wong
2012-07-25 5:37 ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-25 5:54 ` OT: mail-based interfaces and web-based interfaces (Re: Extract Git classes from git-svn (1/10)) Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-25 6:20 ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-25 23:48 ` OT: mail-based interfaces and web-based interfaces (Re: Extract Eric Wong
2012-07-26 2:33 ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-26 2:47 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-26 3:10 ` Eric Wong [this message]
2012-07-21 0:27 ` Fix git-svn tests for SVN 1.7.5 Ben Walton
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