From: Jeff King <peff@peff•net>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco•com>
Cc: Kristoffer Haugsbakk <kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail•com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>,
Kristoffer Haugsbakk <code@khaugsbakk•name>,
git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] usage: help the user help themselves
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 09:11:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250905131158.GA596956@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cTN9vwoquOKCRz9TXRLtwHaxF-mL6xbbXxUmoHxZkW5rA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 06:11:30PM -0400, Eric Sunshine wrote:
> > > I didn't spell it out above, but what I had in mind was something very
> > > simple... not at all ong and detailed; for instance:
> > >
> > > For interactive use, define a Git alias `git whatchanged`
> > > which runs `git log --raw --no-merges`.
> >
> > I think that is good advice, but... it won't do anything until we
> > actually drop the whatchanged command, since until then we'll refuse to
> > override the command (even the crippled --i-still-use-this one).
> >
> > We'd need something like the patch here:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/git/20250830022718.GB567900@coredump.intra.peff.net/
>
> Indeed. I saw your patch in the other thread and had it in mind when
> composing my earlier email, even though I didn't specifically mention
> it (though I probably should have) since I was more focused on raising
> the point that -- given the recent spate of muscle-memory /
> mnemonic-value argument emails -- the existing hints in Kristoffer's
> patch series may be insufficient to quell future emails.
Heh, I should have figured. I didn't see any response in that thread, so
this was my attempt to pawn it off on folks who are more interested in
the topic (and working on the advice half). ;)
-Peff
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2025-08-27 16:29 [PATCH 0/4] you-still-use-that??: improve breaking changes troubleshooting kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-27 16:29 ` [PATCH 1/4] usage: help the user help themselves kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-27 20:36 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-08-27 21:02 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-27 21:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-27 21:27 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-27 22:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 6:39 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-08-28 15:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03 16:50 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-03 17:53 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-03 21:21 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-03 21:41 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-03 21:44 ` Jeff King
2025-09-03 22:11 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-04 6:57 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-05 13:11 ` Jeff King [this message]
2025-09-09 20:01 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-08-27 21:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-27 16:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] whatchanged: tell users the git-log(1) equivalent kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-27 16:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-27 16:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-27 17:08 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-08-28 12:07 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-08-27 16:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] whatchanged: remove not-even-shorter clause kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-27 16:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] BreakingChanges: remove claim about whatchanged reports kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-27 16:43 ` [PATCH 0/4] you-still-use-that??: improve breaking changes troubleshooting Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 " kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-29 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] you-still-use-that??: help the user help themselves kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-29 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] whatchanged: tell users the git-log(1) equivalent kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-29 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] whatchanged: remove not-even-shorter clause kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-08-29 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] BreakingChanges: remove claim about whatchanged reports kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] you-still-use-that??: improve breaking changes troubleshooting kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] git: add `deprecated` category to --list-cmds kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 6:43 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 8:02 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] git: make the two loops look more symmetric kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] git: allow alias-shadowing deprecated builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 20:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-08 21:11 ` Jeff King
2025-09-08 21:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-09 6:25 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] t0014: test shadowing of aliases for a sample of builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] you-still-use-that??: help the user help themselves kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] whatchanged: tell users the git-log(1) equivalent kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] whatchanged: remove not-even-shorter clause kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] BreakingChanges: remove claim about whatchanged reports kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] you-still-use-that??: improve breaking changes troubleshooting kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] git: add `deprecated` category to --list-cmds kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 21:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-10 11:41 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-10 15:50 ` Jeff King
2025-09-10 21:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-10 20:23 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] git: allow alias-shadowing deprecated builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-10 5:13 ` Jeff King
2025-09-10 15:48 ` Jeff King
2025-09-10 17:58 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-10 18:34 ` Jeff King
2025-09-11 17:31 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-11 20:32 ` Jeff King
2025-09-11 20:43 ` Jeff King
2025-09-13 14:10 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-13 22:06 ` Jeff King
2025-09-14 17:24 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-15 1:44 ` Jeff King
2025-09-15 6:27 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-11 20:44 ` Jeff King
2025-09-11 21:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-13 21:50 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] t0014: test shadowing of aliases for a sample of builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] you-still-use-that??: help the user help themselves kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] whatchanged: tell users the git-log(1) equivalent kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] whatchanged: remove not-even-shorter clause kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-09 19:45 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] BreakingChanges: remove claim about whatchanged reports kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] you-still-use-that??: improve breaking changes troubleshooting kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] git: add `deprecated` category to --list-cmds kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] git: move seen-alias bookkeeping into handle_alias(...) kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] git: allow alias-shadowing deprecated builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] t0014: test shadowing of aliases for a sample of builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] you-still-use-that??: help the user help themselves kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] whatchanged: hint about git-log(1) and aliasing kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] whatchanged: remove not-even-shorter clause kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-14 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] BreakingChanges: remove claim about whatchanged reports kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] you-still-use-that??: improve breaking changes troubleshooting Junio C Hamano
2025-09-16 20:47 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-16 23:24 ` Jeff King
2025-09-17 15:41 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-17 16:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] " kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] Makefile: don’t add whatchanged after it has been removed kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] git: add `deprecated` category to --list-cmds kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] git: move seen-alias bookkeeping into handle_alias(...) kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] git: allow alias-shadowing deprecated builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] t0014: test shadowing of aliases for a sample of builtins kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] you-still-use-that??: help the user help themselves kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] whatchanged: hint about git-log(1) and aliasing kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] whatchanged: remove not-even-shorter clause kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-17 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] BreakingChanges: remove claim about whatchanged reports kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-18 18:31 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] you-still-use-that??: improve breaking changes troubleshooting Jeff King
2025-09-18 20:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-18 20:28 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
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