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From: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha•warpmail.net>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx•de>
Cc: Ben Bucksch <ben.bucksch.news@beonex•com>,
	Jeremy White <jwhite@codeweavers•com>,
	"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <bss@iguanasuicide•net>,
	git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Enable setting attach as the default in .gitconfig for git-format-patch.
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:50:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49903491.7000509@drmicha.warpmail.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0902091433270.10279@pacific.mpi-cbg.de>

Johannes Schindelin venit, vidit, dixit 09.02.2009 14:36:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Ben Bucksch wrote:
> 
>> On 09.02.2009 13:34, Michael J Gruber wrote:
>>> Johannes Schindelin venit, vidit, dixit 08.02.2009 18:28:
>>>    
>>>> On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, Jeremy White wrote
>>>>> Essentially, the problem is well understood - Thunderbird uses
>>>>> format=flowed by default, which is what mangles the patches.
>>>>>        
>>>> I guess I'll start discouraging use of Thunderbird from now on.
>> Or you could just publish:
>> 1. Prefs | Advanced | General | Config Editor...
>> 2. "mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed" = false
> 
> Ah.  Mhm...
> 
>> As inline attachments, they'll show up inline in the msg viewer as well 
> 
> ... which is a moot point, as the responder has to do extra work to quote 
> the stuff.  Definitely not my type of friendliness.
> 
>>> I found git-send-email the more reliable and practical solution for 
>>> sending out patches. Put yourself in bcc and you'll have a copy in 
>>> TB's inbox or another folder (use filters).
>> Yup, I think that's the best way - git is using email only as protocol, so
>> it's good to have special clients to that, as it's a really special use.
> 
> Aha.  And putting extra comments in (manually) does not count.  'cause I 
> do not see send-email allowing that.

There is this useful thingy called "vim" which lets you edit the 00*
files... Come on, Dscho ;)

>>> <sarcasm style="reality: exaggerated;">
>>> Isn't that some Linux guy? How would he matter for Mozilla? Does he even
>>> know how to send HTML mail...
>>> </sarcasm>
>>>    
>> I don't think it's a matter of clue, it's a matter of background and 
>> attitude.
> 
> Yeah, I think my background dictates that I stay by my word and recommend 
> other mailers than Thunderbird.
> 
> It is one thing to be nice to the "average" user, but another one to be 
> unfriendly to the people making the internet revolution possible.

I think Ben made it clear why "format flowed" is the default, and there
are numerous posts in the TB/moz community which make it clear why they
spell it "format flawed".  The default will not change.

I thought about writing an extension which let's you change the config
on a per message basis. (You can already do it per folder using mnenhy,
I suppose.) But then I still have to navigate from TB to my repo and
include the output of git-format-patch, or dump it to an mbox (or upload
to an imap drafts folder).

So, even with f-f issues out of the way I would find git-send-email
(+vim) to be the right tool for the job. Which is why I use it, for
sending patches by e-mail, not for corresponding by e-mail.

So, let's be peaceful, and talk about Mozilla's choice of hg instead ;)
[No, please don't!]

Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-09 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-08  3:26 [PATCH v2] Enable setting attach as the default in .gitconfig for git-format-patch Jeremy White
2009-02-08  5:10 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2009-02-08 16:01   ` Jeremy White
2009-02-08 17:28     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-09 12:34       ` Michael J Gruber
2009-02-09 13:25         ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 13:36           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-09 13:50             ` Michael J Gruber [this message]
2009-02-09 14:39               ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2009-02-09 13:52             ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 14:49               ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-09 13:52             ` Thunderbird and patches (was Re: [PATCH v2] Enable setting attach as the default in .gitconfig for git-format-patch.) Jeremy White
2009-02-09 14:18               ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 15:38                 ` Jeremy White
2009-02-09 15:54                   ` Michael J Gruber
2009-02-09 16:24                     ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 18:06                       ` Jeremy White
2009-02-09 18:54                       ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 19:09                         ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 19:14                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-09 19:20                             ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 19:30                               ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 19:51                                 ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 19:59                                   ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 21:03                                     ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 21:07                                       ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 22:01                                       ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 22:13                                         ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 22:25                                           ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 22:28                                             ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 22:46                                               ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-10  1:00                                                 ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 19:33                             ` Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 20:09                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-10 10:07                                 ` Michael J Gruber
2009-02-12  4:37                                   ` Thunderbird and patches Miles Bader
2009-02-12 10:07                                     ` Michael J Gruber
2009-02-09 19:22                           ` Thunderbird and patches (was Re: [PATCH v2] Enable setting attach as the default in .gitconfig for git-format-patch.) Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 19:00                       ` [PATCH] example patch corrupted by thunderbird Brandon Casey
2009-02-09 15:49                 ` Thunderbird and patches (was Re: [PATCH v2] Enable setting attach as the default in .gitconfig for git-format-patch.) Michael J Gruber
2009-02-09 22:39               ` Thunderbird and patches Ben Bucksch
2009-02-09 22:55                 ` Jeremy White
2009-02-09 23:01                   ` Ben Bucksch
2009-02-10  1:41 ` [PATCH v2] Enable setting attach as the default in .gitconfig for git-format-patch Junio C Hamano
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-12 15:51 Jeremy White
2009-02-12 21:01 ` Junio C Hamano

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