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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>
To: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@navytux•spb.ru>
Cc: git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] t/Makefile: Use $(sort ...) explicitly where needed
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:14:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vbopyhmlx.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120120063450.GA15371@mini.zxlink> (Kirill Smelkov's message of "Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:34:50 +0400")

Kirill Smelkov <kirr@navytux•spb.ru> writes:

>> I do not necessarily buy your "so we HAVE TO, OR ELSE".
>> 
>> Even though I can understand "We can sort the list of tests _if_ we do not
>> want them executed in seemingly random order when running 'make -j1'", I
>> tend to think that *if* is a big one.  Aren't these tests designed not to
>> depend on each other anyway?
>
> Yes, they don't depend on each other, but what's the point in not
> sorting them? I usually watch test progress visually, and if tests are
> sorted, even with make -j4 they go more or less incrementally by their t
> number.
>
> On my netbook, adding $(sort ...) adds approximately 0.008s to make
> startup, so imho there is no performance penalty to adding that sort.

Heh, who said anything about performance?

I was pointing out that your justification "we HAVE TO" was wrong.

If you are doing this for perceived prettyness and not as a fix for any
correctness issue, I want to see the patch honestly described as such;
that's all.

By the way, if I recall correctly, $(sort) in GNU make not just sorts but
as a nice side effect removes duplicates. So if we used a(n fictional)
construct in our Makefile like this:

    T = $(wildcard *.sh a.*)

that might produce duplicates (i.e. "a.sh" might appear twice), which
might leave us two identical pathnames in $T and cause us trouble.  Even
if we do not have such a use currently, rewriting $(wildcard) like your
patch does using $(sort $(wildcard ...)) may be a good way to future-proof
our Makefile, and if you justify your patch that way, it would be a
possible correctness hardening, not just cosmetics, and phrasing it with
"HAVE TO" may be justifiable.

Care to try if $(wildcard *.sh a.*) give you duplicated output with newer
GNU make? I am lazy but am a bit curious ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-20  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-19 20:17 [PATCH] t/Makefile: Use $(sort ...) explicitly where needed Kirill Smelkov
2012-01-19 22:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-20  6:34   ` Kirill Smelkov
2012-01-20  7:14     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-01-20  7:19       ` Kirill Smelkov
2012-01-22 19:17         ` Kirill Smelkov

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