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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail•com>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail•com>, Jeff King <peff@peff•net>,
	git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git and GSoC 2013
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:57:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vd2uirefb.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP8UFD2jPSpAQQJC1sUtd5ztnMB=kou36HZUaoPOG4ht-Sj8wg@mail.gmail.com> (Christian Couder's message of "Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:39:23 +0100")

Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail•com> writes:

> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com> wrote:
>
>> What I gathered from the discussion so far is that everybody agrees
>> that our mentoring has been suboptimal in various ways (not enough
>> encouragement to engage with the community early, working in the
>> cave for too long, biting too much to chew etc.).  What makes you
>> think we would do better this year?
>
> The fact that we will be more conscious that we need smaller projects
> and that we need to push even more for students to send their patch
> soon on the mailing list.
>
> If it doesn't work at all we will be set and we will know that there
> is not much we can do to make it work.

That sounds like doing the same thing over and over again to me.

I just looked at the "ideas" page Thomas sent the link to upthread
this morning, but I didn't see any evidence that it has been been
curated with "we need smaller projects" in mind.

We will be more conscious?  I cannot take that promise at face value
after seeing that the page stayed the same since Thomas resurrected
it from last year's ideas page ever since it was created.

> If we don't even try we will not know soon, so not be able to improve
> or decide to stop.
>
> It's like software or science. If you don't test soon your hypothesis
> you don't progress fast.

The impression I am getting is that the concensus is that we do not
even have hypothesis worth testing with a grant money from GSoC and
students' time at this point, if I may borrow your science analogy.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-29  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-27 18:34 Git and GSoC 2013 Jeff King
2013-03-27 18:52 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-27 22:15   ` Christian Couder
2013-03-28 16:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-28 17:07       ` Jeff King
2013-03-28 20:39       ` Christian Couder
2013-03-29  4:57         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-03-28 15:17 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra

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