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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu•org>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff•net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>,
	Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum•mit.edu>,
	git discussion list <git@vger•kernel.org>,
	Fabian <bafain@gmail•com>,
	Quint Guvernator <quintus.public@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: New GSoC microproject ideas
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:12:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3bzi0j4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140312204453.GA9702@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:44:53 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff•net> writes:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 09:37:41PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> > Try:
>> >
>> >   zippo() {
>> >     echo $XXX
>> >   }
>> >   XXX=8 zippo
>> >   zippo
>> >
>> > XXX remains set after the first call under dash (but not bash). I
>> > believe "ash" has the same behavior.
>> 
>> Yes.  I would lean towards considering this a bug.  But I agree that it
>> does not help.
>
> Dash's behavior is POSIX (and "bash --posix" behaves the same way).
>
>   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/137095

In that case I consider it a standard-compliant bug (namely being a
serious problem regarding the usefulness of shell functions).  Which
makes it unlikely to go away.  It makes it easier to interpret, say

zippo() {
  XXX=$XXX
}

XXX=8 zippo
echo $XXX

as shell functions presumably should be able to assign to shell
variables like built-ins do.  But that's not really much of an
advantage.

The behavior does not make sense to me also with regard to special
built-ins.  Bash does

dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/git$ XXX=8 :
dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/git$ echo $XXX

dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/git$ 

And that makes sense to me.  Whatever, does not help.

-- 
David Kastrup

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-12 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 11:48 New GSoC microproject ideas Michael Haggerty
2014-03-12 19:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-12 19:16   ` David Kastrup
2014-03-12 19:21     ` Jeff King
2014-03-12 20:37       ` David Kastrup
2014-03-12 20:44         ` Jeff King
2014-03-12 21:12           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-03-13 17:06   ` Michael Haggerty

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