From: JM Ibanez <jm@orangeandbronze•com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation•org>
Cc: Wincent Colaiuta <win@wincent•com>, Kevin Ballard <kevin@sb•org>,
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail•com>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx•de>,
Mark Junker <mjscod@web•de>,
"git\@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: git on MacOSX and files with decomposed utf-8 file names
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:01:13 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87odbkyuvq.fsf@adler.orangeandbronze.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801170842280.14959@woody.linux-foundation.org> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Thu\, 17 Jan 2008 08\:43\:25 -0800 \(PST\)")
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation•org> writes:
> So the whole "but they _look_ the same" argument is just total BS. In just
> about all character encodings there has always been unique and different
> "characters" that _look_ the same on screen, and it has never really made
> them actually *be* the same, and it has never been a valid argument for
> them being considered the same.
With the exception of Unicode. If you check the standard, two Unicode
codepoints (i.e. the numeric value that gets stored on disk) *can* map
to the same character, hence they are the same. They don't just look the
same, they are the same character -- even if the codepoints are
different (i.e. precomposed vs. decomposed characters). In fact, part of
the Unicode standard deals with that. (Technically, Unicode calls it
equivalence, but what the hey).
In other words, Unicode treats e.g. both U+0065 and U+00E9 as
fundamentally the same character. This comes even more into play in such
alphabets as Hangul (Korean) and the Japanese Kana.
--
JM Ibanez
Software Architect
Orange & Bronze Software Labs, Ltd. Co.
jm@orangeandbronze•com
http://software.orangeandbronze.com/
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2008-01-16 15:17 git on MacOSX and files with decomposed utf-8 file names Mark Junker
2008-01-16 15:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-16 15:43 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-16 16:32 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-16 16:46 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-01-16 20:39 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-16 21:51 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-01-16 22:06 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-16 22:23 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-16 23:16 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-16 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 22:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 23:11 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-16 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 23:57 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 0:27 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 0:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-17 0:40 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 0:54 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 1:08 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 4:07 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-17 0:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 0:45 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-18 8:29 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-18 11:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-01-16 23:58 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-17 0:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 0:09 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-17 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 0:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 0:43 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 0:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 1:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 1:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 3:52 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-17 4:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 4:30 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-17 4:51 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-17 5:23 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-17 6:13 ` Geert Bosch
2008-01-17 7:11 ` Mitch Tishmack
2008-01-17 10:22 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 13:44 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-17 15:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 16:53 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-18 0:44 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-17 14:02 ` Andrew Heybey
2008-01-17 15:04 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-19 19:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-19 19:57 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-17 10:08 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 18:09 ` Mark Junker
2008-01-17 18:12 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 18:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 18:36 ` Mark Junker
2008-01-17 18:38 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 19:02 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 18:50 ` Mark Junker
2008-01-17 18:52 ` Pedro Melo
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801 171100330.14959@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008-01-17 19:01 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-17 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 0:18 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-18 0:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 1:05 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-18 1:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 4:08 ` Brian Dessent
2008-01-18 8:49 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-18 9:42 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-18 10:30 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-18 15:37 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-18 17:24 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-01-18 10:19 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-18 10:50 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-18 15:30 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-18 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 20:24 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-19 8:48 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-19 14:55 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-19 21:17 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-19 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-19 20:39 ` Mark Junker
2008-01-19 22:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-20 6:14 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-20 6:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-20 13:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-20 0:11 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-20 1:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-20 5:27 ` Mike Hommey
2008-01-20 5:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-20 7:00 ` Mike Hommey
2008-01-20 7:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-20 8:00 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-20 8:12 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-20 9:34 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-18 20:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 20:50 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-23 2:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-01-23 2:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-23 14:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-01-23 21:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21 14:14 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-21 16:43 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 16:48 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-21 16:59 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 20:43 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-21 20:53 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 21:05 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-21 23:01 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-21 16:53 ` Jeff King
2008-01-21 17:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-01-21 17:25 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 20:35 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-21 20:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-21 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 19:05 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 19:58 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 20:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 20:53 ` Kevin Ballard
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.0! 0.0801211323120.2957@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008-01-21 20:58 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-21 21:17 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-21 21:28 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 21:43 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-21 21:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 21:49 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 22:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 22:46 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 22:56 ` Martin Langhoff
[not found] ` <53C76BEA-2232-4940-8776-9DF1880089A4@sb.org>
2008-01-21 23:05 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 23:16 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-22 0:30 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 23:00 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-21 23:09 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 23:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-22 0:47 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-22 1:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-22 1:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-22 2:33 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-22 2:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-22 3:04 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-22 3:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-22 3:21 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-22 4:22 ` Kevin Ballard
[not found] ` <20080122133427.GB17804@mit.edu>
2008-01-23 0:08 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-23 0:38 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-23 1:47 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-23 2:06 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-23 8:45 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-23 0:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 1:14 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-23 1:16 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-23 1:27 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-23 1:33 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-23 1:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 2:02 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-23 6:41 ` Mike Hommey
2008-01-23 8:15 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-23 8:43 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-23 9:02 ` Jonathan del Strother
2008-01-23 9:12 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-23 9:19 ` Mike Hommey
2008-01-23 9:32 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-23 9:40 ` Mike Hommey
2008-01-23 13:38 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-23 16:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 17:12 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-23 17:19 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-23 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-24 21:02 ` On pathnames Junio C Hamano
2008-01-24 22:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-01-25 3:55 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-25 4:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-25 4:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-25 8:08 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-25 12:25 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-25 12:50 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-25 12:53 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-24 23:56 ` Sean
2008-01-25 0:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-25 4:00 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-25 4:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-25 11:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-25 16:25 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-25 17:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-25 5:59 ` Jeff King
2008-01-23 20:18 ` git on MacOSX and files with decomposed utf-8 file names Jay Soffian
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2008-01-24 2:05 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-24 3:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-24 4:37 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-24 5:30 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-24 6:39 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-24 18:17 ` Mitch Tishmack
2008-01-24 18:52 ` Mitch Tishmack
2008-01-24 19:58 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-23 23:37 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-23 16:58 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-23 17:39 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-23 17:47 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 19:57 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-21 20:01 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 20:15 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-21 20:31 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 20:46 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-21 20:59 ` Kevin Ballard
[not found] ` <6E303071-82A4-4D69-AA0C-EC41168B9AFE@sb.org>
2008-01-21 21:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-21 21:43 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 21:49 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-21 21:57 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-22 0:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-22 0:42 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-22 0:48 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-22 1:06 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-22 1:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-22 1:53 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-22 2:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-21 22:38 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-22 2:34 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-22 7:51 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-21 20:56 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-21 21:07 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 22:41 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-21 22:53 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-01-21 23:21 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-21 19:44 ` Mike Hommey
2008-01-21 20:36 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-21 21:06 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-21 21:09 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-21 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 22:45 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-01-21 20:30 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-21 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 21:27 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-17 22:01 ` JM Ibanez [this message]
2008-01-17 22:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 1:27 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-17 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 23:10 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-16 23:52 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-16 22:37 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2008-01-16 23:03 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 7:29 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-17 4:43 ` Jay Soffian
2008-01-17 4:59 ` Jay Soffian
2008-01-17 5:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-17 10:28 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 11:10 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 11:23 ` Pedro Melo
2008-01-17 11:51 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 12:53 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 13:40 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 17:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-17 18:22 ` Johan Herland
2008-01-17 13:05 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-17 11:46 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-01-17 5:11 ` Linus Torvalds
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