From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu•org>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx•de>
Cc: ae@op5•se, barkalow@iabervon•org, raa.lkml@gmail•com,
tsuna@lrde•epita.fr, git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching from CVS to GIT
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:53:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IhlvV-0002qv-1K@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710161324490.25221@racer.site> (message from Johannes Schindelin on Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:29:41 +0100 (BST))
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:29:41 +0100 (BST)
> From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx•de>
> cc: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5•se>, barkalow@iabervon•org, raa.lkml@gmail•com,
> tsuna@lrde•epita.fr, git@vger•kernel.org
>
> > > removed: README
> > > untracked: readme
> >
> > This is a non-issue, then: Windows filesystems are case-preserving, so
> > if `README' became `readme', someone deliberately renamed it, in which
> > case it's okay for git to react as above.
>
> No, it is not. On FAT filesystems, for example, I experienced Windows
> happily naming a file "head" which was created under then name "HEAD".
What program did that, and how did you see that the file was named
"head" instead of "HEAD"? (The latter question is because Explorer,
for example, does not show the file names exactly like they are
written in the directory, it capitalises them. But this is
application-level code; in the directory the file names are written
like you gave them in the argument to whatever "create file" API you
used.
> No. It can also be the output of a program which deletes the file first,
> and then (since the filesystem is so "conveniently" case insensitive)
> creates it again, with a lowercase filename.
>
> And don't you tell me that there are no such programs. I have to use
> them, and they are closed source.
Can you name them?
> > Something for Windows users to decide, I guess. It's not hard to
> > refactor this, it just needs a motivated volunteer.
>
> You?
Maybe some day.
> > Unless that 10K is a typo and you really meant 100K, I don't think 10K
> > files should take several seconds to scan on Windows. I just tried
> > "find -print" on a directory with 32K files in 4K subdirectories, and
> > it took 8 sec elapsed with a hot cache. So 10K files should take at
> > most 2 seconds, even without optimizing file traversal code. Doing
> > the same with native Windows system calls ("dir /s") brings that down
> > to 4 seconds for 32K files.
>
> On Linux, I would have hit Control-C already. Such an operation typically
> takes less than 0.1 seconds.
We were not comparing Linux with Windows, we were talking about
Windows user experience. On Windows 4 seconds is not too long.
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2007-10-14 17:10 ` Switching from CVS to GIT Benoit SIGOURE
2007-10-14 18:06 ` Marco Costalba
2007-10-14 18:20 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 5:35 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-10-14 18:27 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 18:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 19:09 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 22:14 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-14 22:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-14 23:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 0:36 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 1:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 1:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 7:56 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 8:47 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 12:31 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 18:29 ` Paul Smith
2007-10-15 9:23 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 11:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 4:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 8:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 9:02 ` Benoit SIGOURE
2007-10-15 17:56 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 18:37 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 18:44 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:07 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 19:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-15 20:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:42 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 19:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 21:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 20:05 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 20:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 20:43 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 20:46 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 2:24 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-16 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 10:09 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-16 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 6:17 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 20:05 ` Mark Watts
2007-10-15 4:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 8:44 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 8:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 8:57 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 17:49 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 18:25 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15 18:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:34 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 17:53 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-14 23:55 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 0:45 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 5:14 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 7:07 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 12:29 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 12:38 ` Peter Karlsson
2007-10-16 13:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-10-16 12:59 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 13:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:47 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-16 15:56 ` David Brown
2007-10-16 16:04 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-16 16:23 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-16 18:06 ` Christopher Faylor
2007-10-16 16:59 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 7:14 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 12:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 13:16 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 13:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 13:50 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 14:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 14:36 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-17 19:33 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-10-16 5:56 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 12:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 13:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 15:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 17:04 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 6:06 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 6:42 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-14 22:59 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15 0:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 17:36 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 0:03 ` David Brown
2007-10-15 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 10:16 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-15 10:38 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 10:52 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-15 11:16 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15 0:46 ` Michael Gebetsroither
2007-10-15 17:38 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 19:26 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 19:30 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-16 11:13 ` Peter Karlsson
2007-10-15 5:43 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-10-15 6:39 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 23:12 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16 6:10 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16 6:21 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16 6:29 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16 15:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
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