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From: "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" <kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail•com>
To: "Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail•com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox•com>,
	"Jean-Noël Avila" <gitgitgadget@gmail•com>
Cc: git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] config-batch: basic boilerplate of new builtin
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2026 18:26:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1144600-1c94-447f-beaf-8972cd9bdf0f@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c8b984e-feda-48c6-b67d-80a41343bfc0@gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 5, 2026, at 15:17, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>
>> We have had a bad reputation for having too many commands; would it
>> be better to present it as a new mode of existing "git config"
>> command at the end-user level, I wonder?
>
> Interesting thought. I think we also have a bad reputation of commands
> that are overloaded with too many purposes.

I had a response to that in my head...

> In this case, though, I do think that the modern 'git config <subcommand>'
> model presents some clear boundaries for how the command should behave
> with the 'batch' (or 'server') subcommand. Grouping all config-related
> operations in the same builtin may be ideal.

Which turned out to be exactly about a subcommand. :)

I find the modern subcommand model very easy to navigate. And with much
less downsides compared to having dozens of options for one command (or: one
particular subcommand to git(1)).

>
>> Also after reading patches for a few early steps, I do not quite see
>> "batch"-ness in this protocol; it is strictly "a single request is
>> met with a single response".
>
> The batch-ness is that multiple requests can eventually go to the same
> process. The client could collect multiple commands in a batch and send
> them all without processing the responses one-by-one. This is how it works
> in the tests: a single input file is prepared and all responses are
> scanned after-the-fact.

As a user that makes sense given the existing `--batch` and
`--stdin` options.

> The back-and-forth mechanism is how the git-credential-manager tool would
> use it, because it dynamically explores certain config keys. For example:
> it checks the deepest possible URL for a specific key then peels away the
> last segment of the URL to see if there is a directory-prefix match in a
> key. (This is the main reason that there are so many requests in this
> application.)
>
> I believe this is similar to how 'git cat-file --batch' or 'git cat-file
> --batch-check' work, which was my inspiration for this word. If we regret
> those names, then I'm happy to move towards a better name.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-04 14:19 [PATCH 00/11] [RFC] config-batch: a new builtin for tools querying config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 01/11] config-batch: basic boilerplate of new builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 23:23   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 14:17     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-05 17:26       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk [this message]
2026-02-05 17:29   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-06  4:11   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 02/11] config-batch: create parse loop and unknown command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 23:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 17:30   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-06  4:15   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 03/11] config-batch: implement get v1 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-06  4:41   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 04/11] config-batch: create 'help' command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-06  4:49   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-10  4:20     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 05/11] config-batch: add NUL-terminated I/O format Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:44   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-06  4:58   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 06/11] docs: add design doc for config-batch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:38   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-10  4:22     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 07/11] config: extract location structs from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 08/11] config-batch: pass prefix through commands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 09/11] config-batch: add 'set' v1 command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:21   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-05 18:58     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-05 19:01   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-10  4:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-06  5:04   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 10/11] t1312: create read/write test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 11/11] config-batch: add unset v1 command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:36   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-04 23:04 ` [PATCH 00/11] [RFC] config-batch: a new builtin for tools querying config Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 14:10   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-05  0:04 ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-05 13:52   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-10  4:49     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-05 14:45 ` Phillip Wood
2026-02-05 17:20 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk

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