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From: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@planix•com>
To: The Git Mailing List <git@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Git documentation consistency
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1NISeX-000kmuC@most.weird.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e51f66da0912030822ye1541b4gb1b8a3e07eb72484@mail.gmail.com>

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At Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:22:27 +0200, Marko Kreen <markokr@gmail•com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Git documentation consistency
> 
> On 12/3/09, Greg A. Woods <woods@planix•com> wrote:
> > At Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:34:01 -0800, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com> wrote:
> >  Subject: Re: Git documentation consistency
> >  > I think you are showing ignorance here, as -? is *not* even close to
> >  > standard, nor even widely used practice at all.
> >
> >  I think I should know something about Unix command line and option
> >  parsers, having used them for some 25 years or so now.  In fact I've
> >  used most every kind of unix that ever was, and I've worked on the
> >  source to more than a few.
> 
> '?' is what getopt(3) is supposed to return for unknown options.

Indeed, which is why it cannot ever, in general, be used as a valid
option with some command-specific meaning, and so why the one-line form
of the usage message should always be displayed when the user explicitly
gives a '-?' option (i.e. in the same way as if any unknown option is
given).

If the one-line usage message is too terse to explain more complex
command line syntax then '-h' (and --help) should display a short
multi-line summary of the command's usage.

I guess what I should have suggested in the first place is that all Git
sub-commands should respond with a one-line[*] usage message when they
encounter an unknown option, such as '-?', and that they should (only)
display a more detailed multi-line help summary when given '-h' or
'--help' options.

I was most surprised when I didn't get a one-line usage summary from
"git log -?", just getopt(3)'s error message.

[*] commands which have multiple distinct modes of operation with
separate and unique command-line syntax for each mode, should of course
display a one-line summary for each command mode, such as in this
example:

void
usage(void)
{
	fprintf(stderr, "Usage:  %s [-abcdef]\n", getprogname());
	fprintf(stderr, "        %s [-l]\n", getprogname());
	exit(2);
}


-- 
						Greg A. Woods
						Planix, Inc.

<woods@planix•com>       +1 416 218 0099        http://www.planix.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-09 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-29  3:21 "git merge" merges too much! Greg A. Woods
2009-11-29  5:14 ` Jeff King
2009-11-30 18:12   ` Greg A. Woods
2009-11-30 19:22     ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-01 18:52       ` Greg A. Woods
2009-12-01 20:50         ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-01 21:58           ` Greg A. Woods
2009-12-02  0:22             ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-02 10:20         ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-12-02 20:09     ` Jeff King
2009-12-03  1:21       ` Git documentation consistency (was: "git merge" merges too much!) Greg A. Woods
2009-12-03  1:34         ` Git documentation consistency Junio C Hamano
2009-12-03  7:22           ` Greg A. Woods
2009-12-03  7:45             ` Jeff King
2009-12-03 15:24               ` Uri Okrent
2009-12-03 16:22             ` Marko Kreen
2009-12-09 19:56               ` Greg A. Woods [this message]
2009-12-03  2:07         ` Git documentation consistency (was: "git merge" merges too much!) Jeff King
2009-11-29  5:15 ` "git merge" merges too much! Junio C Hamano
2009-11-30 18:40   ` Greg A. Woods
2009-11-30 20:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-30 21:17     ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-01  0:24       ` Greg A. Woods
2009-12-01  5:47         ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-01 17:59           ` multiple working directories for long-running builds (was: "git merge" merges too much!) Greg A. Woods
2009-12-01 18:51             ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-01 18:58               ` Greg A. Woods
2009-12-01 21:18                 ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-01 22:25                   ` Jeff Epler
2009-12-01 22:44                   ` Greg A. Woods
2009-12-02  0:10                     ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-12-03  5:11                       ` Greg A. Woods
2009-12-02  2:09                   ` multiple working directories for long-running builds Junio C Hamano

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