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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff•net>
Cc: "Jason St. John" <jstjohn@purdue•edu>,
	Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail•com>,
	Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha•warpmail.net>,
	David Kastrup <dak@gnu•org>, git <git@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Promoting Git developers
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:58:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq7ful257z.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150312223836.GB24492@peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Thu, 12 Mar 2015 18:38:36 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff•net> writes:

> Seeing my name in "shortlog" was nice, but not that exciting. I
> submitted a patch, it was taken, and of course it ends up in any
> automated lists of authors. What was much more rewarding was being
> mentioned specifically in "A note from the maintainer" as a helpful
> person. That had much more value because:
>
>   1. It was one of a handful of names.
>
>   2. It was picked by a human.
>
> So in that sense, it is quite the opposite of including shortlog output
> in the release announcements (I still think the shortlog thing we have
> been discussing is a good thing, but not at the same level).

Yes, and that cuts both ways, unfortunately. There always will be "I
am doing more reviews than X and my reviews are higher quality. Why
was X singled out and got thanked but not me?", "X is really doing a
good job reviewing in this cycle, but could other people who send
reviews of lessor quality (to my mind) feel that it is unjustified
if I thanked X and nobody else?", etc. A mechanically generated list
avoids these issues, but the satisfaction you get from being on the
list is not very high, exactly because it is not hand picked.

> I do not know that it is worth having a "Best of 2015" Git awards
> ceremony, but it is sometimes nice to thank people personally when
> you appreciate their efforts. I sometimes mail people off-list to
> do so.

Yeah, I do the same, but revealing that we do so would defeat what
we tried to achieve by doing so off-list in the first place. Now
those who haven't got such a piece of e-mail for a while can start
to suspect that they have fallen out of favour or something ;-(.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-12 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-07  7:18 Promoting Git developers (was: Bashing freelancers) Christian Couder
2015-03-09 13:57 ` Michael J Gruber
2015-03-09 14:31   ` Promoting Git developers David Kastrup
2015-03-09 18:32     ` Philip Oakley
2015-03-10  7:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-10 11:51   ` Promoting Git developers (was: Bashing freelancers) Christian Couder
2015-03-10 17:23     ` Promoting Git developers Junio C Hamano
2015-03-11  1:04       ` Jason St. John
2015-03-11  2:13         ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-11  4:16           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-12  2:15             ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-12  4:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-12  7:45                 ` Fredrik Gustafsson
2015-03-12 18:43                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-11  2:36         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-11  7:31           ` Jeff King
2015-03-11  7:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-11  7:54               ` Jeff King
2015-03-11 21:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-11 23:17                   ` Andrew Ardill
2015-03-12 22:31                   ` Jeff King
2015-03-12 22:36                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-12 22:43                       ` Jeff King
2015-03-12  5:05             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-12 22:38               ` Jeff King
2015-03-12 22:58                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2015-03-15  9:12                   ` Christian Couder
2015-03-11 13:53       ` Christian Couder
2015-03-11 20:42         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-15  8:46           ` Christian Couder
2015-03-15 22:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-15 22:43               ` Randall S. Becker
2015-03-16  9:10                 ` Christian Couder
2015-03-16  9:20                   ` David Kastrup
2015-03-16 17:06                     ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-17 20:08                       ` Christian Couder
2015-03-17 20:16                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-16 23:39               ` David Lang
2015-03-17  5:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-17  5:56                   ` David Lang
2015-03-17 20:15               ` Christian Couder
2015-03-17  9:43             ` Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen
2015-03-17 19:51               ` Christian Couder

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