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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>
To: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google•com>
Cc: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum•mit.edu>,
	"git\@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to large transactions
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:51:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqzj62ifc9.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGZ79kZWm=Mi6o4jMNthiDRcR9irs_5MyRuEmHdDSrn-JFpQ=g@mail.gmail.com> (Stefan Beller's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:26:56 -0700")

Stefan Beller <sbeller@google•com> writes:

> The problem comes from guessing the number of fds we're allowed to use.
> At first I thought it was a fundamental issue with the code being broken, but
> it turns out we just need a larger offset as we apparently have 9 files open
> already, before the transaction even starts.
> I did not expect the number to be that high, which is why I came up with the
> arbitrary number of 8 (3 for stdin/out/err, maybe packed refs and reflog so I
> guessed, 8 would do fine).
>
> I am not sure if the 9 is a constant or if it scales to some unknown
> property yet.
> So to make the series work, all we need is:
>
> - int remaining_fds = get_max_fd_limit() - 8;
> + int remaining_fds = get_max_fd_limit() - 9;
>
> I am going to try to understand where the 9 comes from and resend the patches.

I have a suspicion that the above is an indication that the approach
is fundamentally not sound.  9 may be OK in your test repository,
but that may fail in a repository with different resource usage
patterns.

On the core management side, xmalloc() and friends retry upon
failure, after attempting to free the resource.  I wonder if your
codepath can do something similar to that, perhaps?

On the other hand, it may be that this "let's keep it open as long
as possible, as creat-close-open-write-close is more expensive" may
not be worth the complexity.  I wonder if it might not be a bad idea
to start with a simpler rule, e.g. "use creat-write-close for ref
updates outside transactions, and creat-close-open-write-close for
inside transactions, as that is likely to be multi-ref updates" or
something stupid and simple like that?

Michael?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-20 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-16 23:17 [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to large transactions Stefan Beller
2015-04-16 23:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs.c: remove lock_fd from struct ref_lock Stefan Beller
2015-04-16 23:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] Move get_max_fd_limit(void) to git_compat_util.h Stefan Beller
2015-04-16 23:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] refs.c: enable large transactions Stefan Beller
2015-04-17 17:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to " Junio C Hamano
2015-04-17 22:12   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-17 22:17     ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-17 23:31       ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-20 22:26         ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-20 22:51           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2015-04-20 23:07             ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-21  0:31               ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-21  0:35                 ` [PATCH] refs.c: enable " Stefan Beller
2015-04-21 17:16                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 17:24                     ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-21 18:00                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 19:06                         ` [PATCHv2] " Stefan Beller
2015-04-21 19:56                           ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-22 14:11                           ` Michael Haggerty
2015-04-22 19:09                             ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-22 20:12                               ` Michael Haggerty
2015-04-21 17:22                   ` [PATCH] " Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 23:21                 ` [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to " Jeff King
2015-04-22 19:14                   ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-22 20:11                     ` Jeff King
2015-04-21 17:19               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 17:31                 ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-21 12:37             ` Michael Haggerty

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