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From: catalin.marinas@arm•com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists•infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 1/6] pci: Introduce pci_register_io_range() helper function.
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:59:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140626085926.GB11244@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo4iEV6khP63ZTF+YUTKi9WLFXzMv13nxw15y3qDg15Ztg@mail.gmail.com>

(sorry for replying to a months old thread)

On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 06:58:24PM +0100, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb•de> wrote:
> 
> > I think migrating other architectures to use the same code should be
> > a separate effort from adding a generic implementation that can be
> > used by arm64. It's probably a good idea to have patches to convert
> > arm32 and/or microblaze.
> 
> Let me reiterate that I am 100% in favor of replacing arch-specific
> code with more generic implementations.
> 
> However, I am not 100% in favor of doing it as separate efforts
> (although maybe I could be convinced).  The reasons I hesitate are
> that (1) if only one architecture uses a new "generic" implementation,
> we really don't know whether it is generic enough, (2) until I see the
> patches to convert other architectures, I have to assume that I'm the
> one who will write them, and (3) as soon as we add the code to
> drivers/pci, it becomes partly my headache to maintain it, even if
> only one arch benefits from it.

I agree and understand your point.

> Please don't think I'm questioning anyone's intent or good will.  It's
> just that I understand the business pressures, and I know how hard it
> can be to justify this sort of work to one's management, especially
> after the immediate problem has been solved.

But, unfortunately, that's something we failed to address in reasonable
time (even though I was one of the proponents of the generic PCIe
implementation). This work is very likely to slip further into the late
part of this year and I am aware that several ARM partners are blocked
on the (upstream) availability of PCIe support for the arm64 kernel.

Although a bit late, I'm raising this now and hopefully we'll come to a
conclusion soon. Delaying arm64 PCIe support even further is not a real
option, which leaves us with:

1. Someone else (with enough PCIe knowledge) volunteering to take over
   soon or
2. Dropping Liviu's work and going for an arm64-specific implementation
   (most likely based on the arm32 implementation, see below)

First option is ideal but there is work to do as laid out by Arnd here:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1679304

The latest patches from Liviu are here (they only target arm64 and there
are additional comments to be addressed from the above thread):

http://linux-arm.org/git?p=linux-ld.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/for-upstream/pci-next

The main reason for the second option is timing. We could temporarily
move Liviu's code under arch/arm64 with the hope that we generalise it
later. However, the risk is even higher that once the code is in
mainline, the generic implementation won't happen. In which case, I
don't see much point in departing from the arm32 PCI API, making bios32
clone the best second option.

For the alternative implementation above, we already have a heavily cut
down version of the arm32 PCI support but only tested in a virtual
environment so far:

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/will/linux.git/log/?h=pci/bios32

In conclusion, unless someone volunteers for the first option fairly
soon, we'll post the alternative patches for review and take it from
there.

Thanks.

-- 
Catalin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-26  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-14 15:34 [PATCH v7 0/6] Support for creating generic host_bridge from device tree Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] pci: Introduce pci_register_io_range() helper function Liviu Dudau
2014-04-05  0:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-06  9:49     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07  8:35       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  9:13         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07 11:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07  8:31     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 11:36       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07 13:42         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 17:58         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08  9:50           ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 10:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 16:54               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-26  8:59           ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2014-06-26  9:30             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-06-26 14:11               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26 14:14                 ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27  0:44             ` Rob Herring
2014-06-27 11:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 12:49                 ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27 13:16                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 13:38                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 16:15                   ` Rob Herring
2014-06-30 10:17                     ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27 14:14               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 14:55                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-27 15:18                   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 23:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08  7:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08  9:49     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 10:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 16:48         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] pci: OF: Fix the conversion of IO ranges into IO resources Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 17:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 17:19     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 18:46       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 19:00         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 19:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-17 13:41             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] pci: Create pci_host_bridge before its associated bus in pci_create_root_bus Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] pci: Introduce a domain number for pci_host_bridge Liviu Dudau
2014-04-05  0:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07  8:46     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  9:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07 10:07         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 22:44           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08 10:20             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 16:28               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-09 12:07                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-09 14:02                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-09 14:08                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-09 23:49                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-10  1:27                     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10  3:48                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-10  8:00                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 13:50                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-10 14:07                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 14:53                               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10 20:46                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11  5:01                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-11  8:36                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11  9:16                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-11  9:22                                   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-11 13:51                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-01 16:37             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-04 14:57             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-08  1:11               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-07-08 10:21                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] pci: Export find_pci_host_bridge() function Liviu Dudau
2014-04-04 23:39   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07 14:20     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 14:38       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] pci: Add support for creating a generic host_bridge from device tree Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 12:57   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-04-08 13:09     ` Liviu Dudau

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