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From: santosh.shilimkar@ti•com (Santosh Shilimkar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists•infradead.org
Subject: HYP Kernel boot requirements
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:49:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52951756.9000206@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131126173751.GF2355@e103592.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tuesday 26 November 2013 12:37 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 09:47:13AM -0500, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Tuesday 26 November 2013 09:13 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:44:08PM +0000, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>>>> On Monday 25 November 2013 12:28 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 04:59:16PM +0000, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>>>>>> What I am saying is the platforms like OMAP5 already support PM in
>>>>>> mainline kernel and we can't break that for KVM. Boot-loaders
>>>>>> would be thrashed after boot so you need something which runs
>>>>>> in Kernel or along with Kernel to have equivalent of hyp
>>>>>> switching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am not challenging the agreed direction but we need to solve the
>>>>>> PM problem as well before making "all CPU runs boot-loader for
>>>>>> HYP kernels" as a must have. At least its is a change in boot
>>>>>> strategy from existing kernels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course I recommend PSCI which covers both hotplug and suspend ;), but
>>>>> I guess it's not the case for OMAP5. Since OMAP has its own secondary
>>>>> booting protocol and CPU hotplug re-entry, can you not just use
>>>>> different entry point when the primary CPU was initially started in Hyp
>>>>> mode (e.g. omap5_hyp_secondary_startup)?
>>>>>
>>>> How will that solve the guest secondary boot failure case when using
>>>> the same kernel binary for guest-boot ? Even for primary CPU which
>>>> will be suspended it needs to resume already in HYP mode and its not
>>>> going to go through boot-loader. So the low power code needs to have
>>>> HYP switch code so that CPU resumes in HYP mode.
>>>
>>> Is it late to rewrite the OMAP5 firmware?
>>>
>> Well its ROM'ed unfortunately so no choice. OMAP5 ROM did implement
>> a secure API which lets you enter into HYP mode and thats the only
>> thing can be used.
> 
> If the ROM is capable of loading some additional signed Secure World
> firmware after the ROM itself has booted, PSCI could be implemented
> in the second, resident firmware payload.
> 
> Some SoCs ship with boot ROMs that can do that -- is this not the case
> for OMAP5?
> 
On OMAP, the secure devices there is a way to do this but not for 
general purpose devices. General purpose devices once you
exit the ROM code, we exit out of security and only way to
re-enter secure word is via ROM implemented monitor/secure
APIs.

regards,
Santosh

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-26 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-24  0:07 [PATCH 0/2] ARM: OMAP5: Couple of patches for KVM Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: dts: OMAP5: Add maintenance interrupt for virtualisation Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:38   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: OMAP5: Add HYP mode entry support for secondary CPUs Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 15:09   ` Christoffer Dall
2013-11-25 16:28     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 16:33       ` Christoffer Dall
2013-11-25 16:59         ` HYP Kernel boot requirements [Was ...Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: OMAP5: Add HYP mode entry support for secondary CPUs] Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 17:28           ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-25 19:44             ` HYP Kernel boot requirements Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-26 14:13               ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-26 14:47                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-26 17:37                   ` Dave Martin
2013-11-26 21:49                     ` Santosh Shilimkar [this message]
2013-11-27 14:38                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-11-25 16:42       ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: OMAP5: Add HYP mode entry support for secondary CPUs Marc Zyngier
2013-11-25 17:02         ` Santosh Shilimkar

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