From: gregory.clement@free-electrons•com (Gregory CLEMENT)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists•infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 08/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-xp: Relicense the device tree under GPLv2+/X11
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:31:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54907A82.6030906@free-electrons.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141216144533.GL967@titan.lakedaemon.net>
On 16/12/2014 15:45, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:37:19PM +0100, Simon Guinot wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 08:03:31AM -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
>>> Simon,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:22:21AM +0100, Simon Guinot wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 04:38:16PM +0100, Gregory CLEMENT wrote:
>>>>> The current GPL only licensing on the device tree makes it very
>>>>> impractical for other software components licensed under another
>>>>> license.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to make it easier for them to reuse our device trees,
>>>>> relicense our device trees under a GPL/X11 dual-license.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn•ch>
>>>>> Cc: Arnaud Ebalard <arno@natisbad•org>
>>>>> Cc: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons•com>
>>>>> Cc: Greg Ungerer <gerg@uclinux•org>
>>>>> Cc: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux•intel.com>
>>>>> Cc: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon•net>
>>>>> Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm•com>
>>>>> Cc: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu <iwamatsu@nigauri•org>
>>>>> Cc: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail•com>
>>>>> Cc: Simon Guinot <simon.guinot@sequanux•org>
>>>>> Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons•com>
>>>>> Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt•eu>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Gregory CLEMENT <gregory.clement@free-electrons•com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/armada-370-xp.dtsi | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>>>> 1 file changed, 37 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gregory,
>>>>
>>>> NAK for me.
>>>
>>> Well, I'm a bit surprised that this is the first one. :) Care to
>>> explain why so that we can work towards an amenable compromise?
>>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> I am also a bit surprised to be the only one :)
>>
>> As I have no interest in a flame war either, I am not gonna elaborate
>> on this. But in a few words, I don't think that allowing a permissive
>> licence alternative is good for software sharing (which is important
>> to me).
>
> Ok, fair enough. I just needed to know if the NAK was against the
> GPLv2+ part or the X11 part. Clearly, it's the X11 part.
>
> So let's look at what we have (trying to stick to facts):
>
> - alienating contributors in bad (yes, this is first)
> - sometimes the community has to do something a minority disagrees with,
> but it should be avoided, if at all possible.
> - devicetree is so useful, other projects are adopting it
> - if our binding docs are good, rewriting dts{i} isn't hard.
> - rewriting dts{i} can lead to fragmentation
> - maintaining two devicetree trees would be a pia (X11, GPLonly)
> - reverting/rewriting GPLonly commits is possible, but see first bullet.
> - Simon may not be the only contributor who disagrees with X11.
> - of the known consumers of dts{i}, *BSD is the only one with licensing
> issues.
>
> So our goal is to avoid fragmentation by allowing *BSD to use our dts{i}
> files as is. Our secondary goal is to avoid a maintenance headache.
>
> Options:
>
> - Ask Simon to find an OSI-compatible license to replace X11 that:
> - *BSD can use
> - meets the intent of himself and other like-minded authors
> - Leave licensing as is, but make a statement that *using* the dts
> doesn't create a derivative work under the GPL (similar to Linus'
> statement re the Linux kernel, Wolfgang and U-Boot, etc).
> - Screw it, plow forward, and revert/rewrite GPLonly commits
> - Ignore the whole issue and hope it goes away.
>
Thanks for sum-up the situation and to offer the different choice we have.
> Personally, I'm in favor of the second one, and think it has the highest
> chance of success. After all, ARM-based *BSD is launched from a GPL
> bootloader in most cases, right (U-Boot, barebox)? Thoughts?
Presently I would like to have the answer about the relicesing from all the
author in CC. Then depending the result we will see where we should go.
Gregory
--
Gregory Clement, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-15 15:38 [PATCH 00/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-*: Relicense the device tree under GPLv2+/X11 Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 01/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 02/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:59 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 03/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-mirabox: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 04/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-netgear-rn102: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-16 6:58 ` Ben Peddell
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 05/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-netgear-rn104: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 06/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-rd: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 16:59 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-12-15 17:08 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:32 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 07/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-synology-ds213j: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 08/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-xp: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 15:58 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-15 23:22 ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-16 13:03 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 13:37 ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-16 14:45 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 18:31 ` Gregory CLEMENT [this message]
2014-12-16 18:55 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 20:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-16 20:09 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 20:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-16 18:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-16 20:30 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 20:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-18 17:56 ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-18 17:59 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-16 0:20 ` Greg Ungerer
2015-01-26 10:11 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-26 10:13 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 09/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-375-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 10/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-375: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 11/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-380: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 12/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-385-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 13/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-385: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 14/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-385-rd: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 15/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-38x: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 16/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-axpwifiap: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 17/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 18/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 17:58 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 19/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-gp: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 20/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-lenovo-ix4-300d: " Gregory CLEMENT
[not found] ` <CAGHj7OKw00-YCoekDHWrz1_eu0kfxVpqNPVcKcKY0rVJ=FhT=g@mail.gmail.com>
2014-12-15 16:32 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 21/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-matrix: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 22/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-mv78230: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 23/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-mv78260: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 17:59 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 24/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-mv78460: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 25/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-netgear-rn2120: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:59 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 26/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-openblocks-ax3-4: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 27/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-synology-ds414: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:59 ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 16:07 ` [PATCH 00/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-*: " Jason Cooper
2014-12-15 16:27 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 19:10 ` Imre Kaloz
2014-12-15 17:21 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-12-15 20:56 ` Simon Baatz
2014-12-17 20:51 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-12-17 21:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-12-18 10:15 ` Philipp Zabel
2014-12-18 17:15 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-18 19:15 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 14:36 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-19 16:02 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 16:09 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-19 17:03 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 17:11 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-19 17:43 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 18:16 ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-21 23:50 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-22 11:29 ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-22 19:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-22 21:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-23 12:22 ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-30 15:17 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-30 15:12 ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-05 12:03 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-06 2:05 ` Ryan Press
2015-01-06 8:42 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-08 13:57 ` Ryan Press
2015-01-07 12:47 ` Heikki Krogerus
2015-01-08 13:52 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-07 12:54 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-08 13:56 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-21 14:00 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-23 10:54 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-26 10:31 ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-01-14 0:20 ` Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
2015-01-14 8:11 ` Gregory CLEMENT
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