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From: mike.looijmans@topic•nl (Mike Looijmans)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists•infradead.org
Subject: dma_alloc_coherent versus streaming DMA, neither works satisfactory
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:33:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5540B35C.4050002@topic.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2919263.vEuyzce5K7@wuerfel>

?On 29-04-15 12:07, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 April 2015 11:47:37 Mike Looijmans wrote:
>> On 29-04-15 11:17, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:01:35AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>>> You still need to synchronize MMIO register accesses with write buffers,
>>>> as the readl() and writel() functions do in the kernel.
>>>>
>>>> In particular, after you have written a buffer to memory from the CPU,
>>>> you will need to do an outer_sync() before the MMIO write that triggers
>>>> the DMA. This is still much cheaper than doing the cache flush though.
>>>
>>> Note that outer_sync() is already done by readl/writel and/or the write
>>> memory barriers (mb()/wmb()).
>>
>> I initiate the DMA transfers using iowrite32() so if I understand correctly,
>> I'm already doing the right thing here.
>>
>> Just to be completely clear, there is no direct register access from user
>> space, the driver does all MMIO. Userspace only gets an mmap for DMA buffers,
>> and uses ioctl to initiate transfers.
>
> Ok, that seems all fine then.
>
>>>> Another possible problem would be if the driver mmaps the buffer in
>>>> uncached mode to user space. This is something your kernel driver has
>>>> to get right, it won't be handled automatically by setting the
>>>> "dma-coherent" property in DT.
>>>
>>> The buffer should also be mapped into userspace with the same memory
>>> type and cache attributes as the kernel side mapping.  If using ACP,
>>> then you probably want "normal memory, cacheable, writeback, read
>>> allocate" or in the case of SMP, the same but "read/write allocate".
>>
>> I currently use dma_alloc_coherent() to allocate buffers and
>> dma_mmap_coherent() to map them to user space. I was under the assumption that
>> these would do the right thing. Is that correct? If not, then what should I use?
>
> dma_mmap_coherent() is the right interface, but I've just looked at the
> implementation of arm_dma_mmap() and I'm not sure that it actually uses the
> correct vma->vm_page_prot value here, because I don't see where it takes
> into account whether the device is coherent or not. Most ARM machines have
> only noncoherent devices, and dma_mmap_coherent() is used rarely by drivers,
> so it's quite possible that this interface got broken without anybody
> noticing.
>
> If my suspicion is correct, we should either change arm_coherent_dma_ops()
> to refer to a different mmap() callback that does the right thing for
> coherent devices, or change arm_dma_mmap() to look at dev->is_coherent.

Following the route, arch/arm/mm/dma-mapping.c uses pgprot_dmacoherent() which 
is defined in arch/arm/include/asm/pgtable.h and that just returns uncached 
memory.

If you can give me some hints as to what the correct flags would be, I can 
patch my kernel and test it.




Kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-29 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-23 11:52 dma_alloc_coherent versus streaming DMA, neither works satisfactory Mike Looijmans
2015-04-23 12:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-23 13:05   ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-29  8:47   ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-29  9:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-29  9:17       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-04-29  9:47         ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-29 10:07           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-29 10:33             ` Mike Looijmans [this message]
2015-04-29 10:41               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-29 12:49                 ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-29 13:13                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-30 13:50                     ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-30 13:54                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-01  6:08                         ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-01  7:01                           ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-07 11:18                     ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-07 11:56                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-07 13:21                       ` Daniel Drake
2015-05-07 13:31                         ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-07 14:08                           ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-07 14:30                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-08  5:55                               ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-08  7:54                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-08  8:31                                   ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-08 13:19                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-08 14:18                                       ` Mike Looijmans
2015-05-08 14:27                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-08 11:10                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-08 12:17                                   ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-29 11:09             ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-29 12:35               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-29 12:52                 ` Mike Looijmans
2015-04-29 12:54                   ` Arnd Bergmann

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