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From: tomeu.vizoso@collabora•com (Tomeu Vizoso)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists•infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 00/21] On-demand device registration
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:56:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55795B4A.6030008@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdYyvXVm=UBVH9Lwp8nQbuxQL07MLspNfQSHtc-yT2C_0g@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/11/2015 10:15 AM, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Tomeu Vizoso
> <tomeu.vizoso@collabora•com> wrote:
>> On 10 June 2015 at 09:30, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro•org> wrote:
> 
>>> regulator_get(...) -> not available, so:
>>> - identify target regulator provider - this will need instrumentation
>>> - probe it
>>>
>>> It then turns out the regulator driver is on the i2c bus, so we
>>> need to probe the i2c driver:
>>> - identify target i2c host for the regulator driver - this will need
>>>   instrumentation
>>> - probe the i2c host driver
>>>
>>> i2c host comes out, probes the regulator driver, regulator driver
>>> probes and then the regulator_get() call returns.
>>
>> Hmm, if I understand correctly what you say, this is exactly what this
>> particular series does:
>>
>> regulator_get -> of_platform_device_ensure -> probe() on the platform
>> device that encloses the requested device node (i2c host) -> i2c slave
>> gets probed and the regulator registered -> regulator_get returns the
>> requested resource
> 
> Yes. But only for device tree.
> 
>> The downside I'm currently looking at is that an explicit dependency
>> graph would be useful to have for other purposes. For example to print
>> a neat warning when a dependency cannot be fulfilled. Or to refuse to
>> unbind a device which other devices depend on, or to automatically
>> unbind the devices that depend on it, or to print a warning if a
>> device is hotplugged off and other devices depend on it.
> 
> Unbind/remove() calls are the inverse usually yes.
> 
> But also the [runtime] power up/down sequences for the
> devices tend to depend on a similar ordering or mostly
> the same. (Mentioned this before I think.)
> 
>>> This requires instrumentation on anything providing a resource
>>> to another driver like those I mentioned and a lot of overhead
>>> infrastructure, but I think it's the right approach. However I don't
>>> know if I would ever be able to pull that off myself, I know talk
>>> is cheap and I should show the code instead.
>>
>> Yeah, if you can give it a second look and say if it matches what you
>> wrote above, it would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Yes you are right. But what about ACPI, board files,
> Simple Firmware and future hardware description languages...

Ah ok, got it now. With fwnode and by moving a bit of code around that
shouldn't be a problem.

I'm actually now implementing the alternative approach in which
dependencies are discovered before the device is probed, then probed in
turn until all are available. So functionally is very similar but I
expect to find big differences in how the codebase is impacted.

Regards,

Tomeu

> Yours,
> Linus Walleij
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-11  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-25 14:53 [PATCH 00/21] On-demand device registration Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 01/21] regulator: core: Reduce critical area in _regulator_get Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 17:18   ` Mark Brown
2015-05-25 17:45   ` Mark Brown
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 02/21] ARM: tegra: Add gpio-ranges property Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26 19:41   ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-27 14:18     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-27 14:49       ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-28  8:26         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-28 15:50           ` Stephen Warren
2015-06-16  7:53             ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-06-02 11:28     ` Linus Walleij
2015-06-02 15:40       ` Stephen Warren
2015-06-16  8:42         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-06-16 20:32           ` Stephen Warren
2015-06-17 10:04             ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 03/21] ARM: tegra: Register drivers before devices Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 04/21] ARM: EXYNOS: " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26  0:41   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 05/21] ARM i.MX6q: " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 06/21] of/platform: Add of_platform_device_ensure() Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26 18:56   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-27  8:04     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 07/21] of/platform: Ensure device registration on lookup Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 08/21] gpio: Probe GPIO drivers on demand Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 09/21] gpio: Probe pinctrl devices " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 10/21] regulator: core: Probe regulators " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 17:32   ` Mark Brown
2015-05-26  6:17     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26  9:36       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-26 15:08         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26 16:54           ` Mark Brown
2015-05-26 17:53             ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26 19:55               ` Mark Brown
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 11/21] drm: Probe panels " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 12/21] drm/tegra: Probe dpaux devices " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 13/21] i2c: core: Probe i2c master " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 14/21] pwm: Probe PWM chip " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 15/21] backlight: Probe backlight " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26  7:18   ` Lee Jones
2015-05-26  7:25     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-26  8:39       ` Lee Jones
2015-05-26 12:01         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26 13:34           ` Lee Jones
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 16/21] usb: phy: Probe phy " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-26 14:44   ` Felipe Balbi
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 17/21] clk: Probe clk providers " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-28  6:16   ` Michael Turquette
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 18/21] pinctrl: Probe pinctrl devices " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 19/21] phy: core: Probe phy providers " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 20/21] dma: of: Probe DMA controllers " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-25 14:53 ` [PATCH 21/21] power-supply: Probe power supplies " Tomeu Vizoso
2015-05-28  4:33 ` [PATCH 00/21] On-demand device registration Rob Herring
2015-06-03 19:57   ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro•org
2015-06-04  8:39     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-06-04 16:51       ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro•org
2015-06-04 20:39     ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08 12:26       ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-08 18:14         ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08 18:18           ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-22 15:23   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-06-23  0:01     ` Rob Herring
2015-06-02  8:48 ` Linus Walleij
2015-06-02 10:14   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-06-10  7:30     ` Linus Walleij
2015-06-10 10:19       ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-06-11  8:15         ` Linus Walleij
2015-06-11  9:56           ` Tomeu Vizoso [this message]
2015-06-03 21:12 ` Rob Clark
2015-06-04 21:03   ` Alexander Holler

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