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From: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia•com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro•org>
Cc: Deepthi Dharwar <deepthi@linux•vnet.ibm.com>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation•org>,
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	Colin Cross <ccross@android•com>, Rob Lee <rob.lee@linaro•org>,
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Subject: Re: cpuidle future and improvements
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:53:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120618125327.GB32111@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FDF209E.7070803@linaro.org>

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:35:42PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Deepthi Dharwar wrote:
> > On 06/18/2012 02:10 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> A few weeks ago, Peter De Schrijver proposed a patch [1] to allow per
> >> cpu latencies. We had a discussion about this patchset because it
> >> reverse the modifications Deepthi did some months ago [2] and we may
> >> want to provide a different implementation.
> >>
> >> The Linaro Connect [3] event bring us the opportunity to meet people
> >> involved in the power management and the cpuidle area for different SoC.
> >>
> >> With the Tegra3 and big.LITTLE architecture, making per cpu latencies
> >> for cpuidle is vital.
> >>
> >> Also, the SoC vendors would like to have the ability to tune their cpu
> >> latencies through the device tree.
> >>
> >> We agreed in the following steps:
> >>
> >> 1. factor out / cleanup the cpuidle code as much as possible
> >> 2. better sharing of code amongst SoC idle drivers by moving common bits
> >> to core code
> >> 3. make the cpuidle_state structure contain only data
> >> 4. add a API to register latencies per cpu
> > 
> > On huge systems especially  servers, doing a cpuidle registration on a
> > per-cpu basis creates a big overhead.
> > So global registration was introduced in the first place.
> > 
> > Why not have it as a configurable option or so ?
> > Architectures having uniform cpuidle state parameters can continue to
> > use global registration, else have an api to register latencies per cpu
> > as proposed. We can definitely work to see the best way to implement it.
> 
> Absolutely, this is one reason I think adding a function:
> 
> cpuidle_register_latencies(int cpu, struct cpuidle_latencies);
> 
> makes sense if it is used only for cpus with different latencies.
> The other architecture will be kept untouched.
> 
> IMHO, before adding more functionalities to cpuidle, we should cleanup
> and consolidate the code. For example, there is a dependency between
> acpi_idle and intel_idle which can be resolved with the notifiers, or
> there is intel specific code in cpuidle.c and cpuidle.h, cpu_relax is
> also introduced to cpuidle which is related to x86 not the cpuidle core,
> etc ...
> 
> Cleanup the code will help to move the different bits from the arch
> specific code to the core code and reduce the impact of the core's
> modifications. That should let a common pattern to emerge and will
> facilitate the modifications in the future (per cpu latencies is one of
> them).
> 
> That will be a lot of changes and this is why I proposed to put in place
> a cpuidle-next tree in order to consolidate all the cpuidle
> modifications people is willing to see upstream and provide better testing.

Sounds like a good idea. Do you have something like that already?

Thanks,

Peter.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-18 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-18  8:40 cpuidle future and improvements Daniel Lezcano
2012-06-18 11:54 ` Deepthi Dharwar
2012-06-18 12:35   ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-06-18 12:53     ` Peter De Schrijver [this message]
2012-06-18 12:55       ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-06-18 13:06         ` Jean Pihet
2012-06-18 13:26           ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-06-18 13:30 ` [linux-pm] " a0393909
2012-06-25 12:58   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-06-25 13:10     ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-06-25 13:17       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-06-25 13:27   ` linux-next : cpuidle - could you add my tree please Daniel Lezcano
2012-06-25 22:53     ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-07-02  9:09     ` Linus Walleij
2012-07-02 12:51       ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-07-02 19:49         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-02 22:14           ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-07-03  8:59             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-03 12:56               ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-07-03 13:19                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-07-03 13:25                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-07-03 16:54                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-05 13:33                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-07-03 19:20             ` Linus Walleij
2012-07-03 19:33               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-02 20:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-06-18 18:15 ` cpuidle future and improvements Colin Cross
2012-06-18 19:00   ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-06-25 12:54   ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-07-11 14:00     ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman

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