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From: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack•org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat•com>
Cc: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat•com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation•org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail•com>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel•com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg•org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb•auug.org.au>,
	linux-next@vger•kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm-move-mremap-from-file_operations-to-vm_operations_struct-fix
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:39:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150720193912.GJ21558@kvack.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150720192440.GA20573@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 09:24:40PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 07/20, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > But again, again, please ignore. This all is off-topic and my understanding
> > is very limited.
> 
> Yes, yes, but sorry for noise and let me repeat...
> 
> This memory lives in page-cache/lru, it is visible for shrinker which
> will unmap these pages for no reason on memory shortage. IOW, aio fools
> the kernel, this memory looks reclaimable but it is not. And we only do
> this for migration.

And we have the same problem with O_DIRECT.  Given the size of the LRU in 
a modern system, I highly doubt a handful of pages getting scanned is a 
major problem.  If you want to improve this, go ahead, but we need to 
retain support for page migration as people have run into the need for it.

> Even if this is not a problem, this does not look right. So perhaps at
> least mapping_set_unevictable() makes sense. But I simply do not know
> if migration will work with this change.

Nor do I know if that will work.

> And I should have changes the subject a long ago... So what do you think
> we should do with the build failure?

I honestly don't care what of the options you do -- please just don't go 
about adding BUG()s.

		-ben

> Oleg.

-- 
"Thought is the essence of where you are now."

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-20 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-16 23:14 [PATCH] mm-move-mremap-from-file_operations-to-vm_operations_struct-fix Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-16 23:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2015-07-16 23:24 ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-16 23:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-17 14:06     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-07-17 17:27       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-17 17:37         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-07-17 17:55           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-17 18:12             ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-07-17 18:19               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-17 18:39                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-07-17 18:54                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-17 19:09                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-07-17 22:56             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-17 22:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-20 14:22         ` Jeff Moyer
2015-07-20 17:33           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-20 17:51             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-07-20 18:30               ` Jeff Moyer
2015-07-20 18:31               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-20 19:24                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-20 19:39                   ` Benjamin LaHaise [this message]
2015-07-20 20:03                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-21 15:29 ` [PATCH v2] mm-move-mremap-from-file_operations-to-vm_operations_struct-fix Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-21 15:38   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-07-21 16:18     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-21 16:20 ` [PATCH v3] mm-move-mremap-from-file_operations-to-vm_operations_struct-fix Oleg Nesterov

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