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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel•crashing.org>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux•vnet.ibm.com>,
	paulus@samba•org, mpe@ellerman•id.au, ryabinin.a.a@gmail•com
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists•ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V1 0/8] KASAN ppc64 support
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:21:24 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1439810484.2416.20.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87io8ep4sj.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 16:20 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel•crashing.org> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 15:20 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > 
> > > For kernel linear mapping, our address space looks like
> > > 0xc000000000000000 - 0xc0003fffffffffff  (64TB)
> > > 
> > > We can't have virtual address(effective address) above that range
> > > in 0xc region. Hence in-order to shadow the linear mapping, I am 
> > > using region 0xe. ie, the shadow mapping now looks liwe
> > > 
> > > 0xc000000000000000 -> 0xe000000000000000 
> > 
> > Why ? IE. Why can't you put the shadow at address +64T and have it 
> > work
> > for everything ?
> > .../...
> 
> Above +64TB ? How will that work ? We have check in different parts 
> of
> code like below, where we check each region's top address is within 
> 64TB range. 
> 
> PGTABLE_RANGE and (ESID_BITS + SID_SHIFT) and all dependendent on 
> 64TB
> range. (46 bits).

For the VSID we could just mask the address with 64T-1. Depends if it's
some place we want to actually bound check or not. In general though,
we can safely assume that a region will never be bigger than
PGTABLE_RANGE so having another PGTABLE_RANGE zone making the kasan bit
somewhat makes sense. Or if you want KSAN to actually use page tables
make it PGTABLE_RANGE/2 and use the upper half. I don't understand
enough of what ksan does ...


> static inline unsigned long get_vsid(unsigned long context, unsigned 
> long ea,
> 				     int ssize)
> {
> 	/*
> 	 * Bad address. We return VSID 0 for that
> 	 */
> 	if ((ea & ~REGION_MASK) >= PGTABLE_RANGE)
> 		return 0;
> 
> 	if (ssize == MMU_SEGSIZE_256M)
> 		return vsid_scramble((context << ESID_BITS)
> 				     | (ea >> SID_SHIFT), 256M);
> 	return vsid_scramble((context << ESID_BITS_1T)
> 			     | (ea >> SID_SHIFT_1T), 1T);
> }
> 
> 
> 
> > > Another reason why inline instrumentation is difficult is that 
> > > for
> > > inline instrumentation to work, we need to create a mapping for 
> > > _possible_
> > > virtual address space before kasan is fully initialized. ie, we 
> > > need
> > > to create page table entries for the shadow of the entire 64TB 
> > > range,
> > > with zero page, even though we have lesser ram. We definitely 
> > > can't 
> > > bolt those entries. I am yet to get the shadow for kernel linear 
> > > mapping to work without bolting. Also we will have to get the 
> > > page 
> > > table allocated for that, because we can't share page table 
> > > entries. 
> > > Our fault path use pte entries for storing hash slot index.
> > 
> > Hrm, that means we might want to start considering a page table to
> > cover the linear mapping...
> 
> But that would require us to get a large zero page ? Are you 
> suggesting
> to use 16G page ? 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > If we are ok to steal part of that 64TB range, for kasan mapping 
> > > , ie
> > > we make shadow of each region part of the same region, may be we 
> > > can
> > > get inline instrumentation to work. But that still doesn't solve 
> > > the
> > > page table allocation overhead issue mentioned above.
> > > 
> 
> -aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-17 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-17  6:36 [RFC PATCH V1 0/8] KASAN ppc64 support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 1/8] powerpc/mm: Add virt_to_pfn and use this instead of opencoding Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 2/8] kasan: MODULE_VADDR is not available on all archs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 3/8] kasan: Rename kasan_enabled to kasan_report_enabled Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 4/8] kasan: Don't use kasan shadow pointer in generic functions Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17 11:36   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-08-18  5:29     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-18  9:12       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 5/8] kasan: Enable arch to hook into kasan callbacks Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 6/8] kasan: Allow arch to overrride kasan shadow offsets Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 7/8] powerpc/mm: kasan: Add kasan support for ppc64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17 12:13   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-08-17 12:17     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-08-18  5:36       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-18  8:40         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-08-18  5:34     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH V1 8/8] powerpc: Disable kasan for kernel/ and mm/ directory Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17  6:54 ` [RFC PATCH V1 0/8] KASAN ppc64 support Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-08-17  9:50   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17 10:01     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-08-17 10:50       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-17 11:21         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2015-08-17 11:29     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-08-18  5:42       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-18  8:50         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-08-18  9:21           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-08-18  9:30             ` Andrey Ryabinin

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