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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman•id.au>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google•com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux•vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack•org, linuxppc-dev@lists•ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: Problems with swapping in v4.5-rc on POWER
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:12:30 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1456373550.30375.3.camel@ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1602241716220.15121@eggly.anvils>

On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 18:10 -0800, Hugh Dickins via Linuxppc-dev wrote:

> I've plagiarized the subject from Paulus's "Problems with THP" mail
> last weekend; but my similar problems are on PowerMac G5 baremetal,
> with 4kB pages, not capable of THP and no THP configured in.
> 
> Under heavily swapping load, running kernel builds on tmpfs in limited
> memory, I've been seeing random segfaults too, internal compiler errors
> etc.  Not easily reproduced: sometimes happens in minutes, sometimes
> not for several hours.
> 
> I tried and failed to construct a reproducer for you: my lack of a good
> recipe has deterred me from reporting it, and seeing Paulus's mail on
> THP gave me hope that the answer would come up in that thread; but no,
> that was quickly resolved as a THP issue, since fixed.
> 
> (Mine had appeared to be fixed in v4.5-rc4 anyway; but I guess I
> just didn't try hard enough, it resurfaced on -rc5 immediately.)
> 
> I've seen no sign of such problems on x86.  And I saw no sign of such
> problems on v4.4-rc8-mm1, when I included the fixes to the _PAGE_PTE
> and _PAGE_SWP_SOFT_DIRTY swapoff issues we discussed back then (in
> 33 hours of load, should be good enough; but did see such problems
> a couple of times before including those fixes - I took them to be
> a side-effect of the page flags issue, but now rather doubt that).
> 
> The minutes or hours thing: I wonder if that indicates a missing
> initialization somewhere: that can easily show up soon after booting,
> but then the machine settles into a steady state of reusing the same
> structures, now initialized; until much later something disturbs the
> state and it has to allocate more.  Sheer speculation, but I wonder.

Thanks Hugh.

I do run tests on G5, but obviously not rigorously enough. I kicked off a few
kernel builds on mine and it survived, though once it hits swap it's almost
unusably slow. I'll leave it running overnight and see if I hit anything.

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-25  4:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-25  2:10 Problems with swapping in v4.5-rc on POWER Hugh Dickins
2016-02-25  4:12 ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2016-02-25  5:36   ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-25  4:52 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-02-25  5:43   ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-25 21:35     ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-26 10:04       ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-02 20:49         ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-03  5:51           ` Michael Ellerman
2016-03-04 17:58             ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-07  3:00               ` Michael Ellerman
2016-03-08 11:49                 ` Hugh Dickins

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