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From: Tom Rini <trini@kernel•crashing.org>
To: Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram•es>
Cc: Michael Sokolov <msokolov@ivan•Harhan.ORG>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists•linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:24:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020408162412.GJ2716@opus.bloom.county> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0204081755150.20339-100000@gra-lx1.iram.es>


On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:03:28PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Tom Rini wrote:
>
> > ... And then the pplus stuff ripped out of the 'PReP' support and
> > CONFIG_PPLUS converted too.  Before we get too far along, I should say I
> > actually do like this idea.
>
> Actually, why does CONFIG_PPLUS even exist?

It's my understanding that since they're PReP + bits, it's cleaner to
support them seperatly than in the big prep mess.  It's also easier to
get all of the HW bits working.  But maybe Matt Porter will speak up. :)

> > It's worth noting why these are done as they are, since I'm not sure you
> > quite see why.  pmac and chrp fall into the same category as ppcstar,
> > which is 'We know the firmware, it can be useful, and we will use it'.
> > prep is more along the lines of 'Nothing useful here, but we've been
> > loaded, go go go!'.  The 'simple' stuff is 95% prep, but with the legacy
> > prep workarounds removed.  Also, pmac at least spits out 3 or 4 images
> > as it is.
>
> Actually, PreP residual data can be useful, if you kow how to interpret it
> to find interrupt routing for example.

Well, after talking with Hollis, IBM Residual data _has to be_ good,
since AIX or so relies on it.  But from talking to Cort a few times, he
never could trust it on either IBM or Motorola boxes.

> (Who should have properly submitted his PrePboot code 3 years ago)

Yes.  Willing to dig it up again and try and get it going for 2.5? :)

--
Tom Rini (TR1265)
http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-08 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-06 20:23 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-06 22:06 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-04-08 15:48 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-08 16:03   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 16:24     ` Tom Rini [this message]
2002-04-08 16:48       ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 17:23         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Matt Porter
2002-04-08 17:37           ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 18:07             ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Matt Porter
2002-04-08 18:41               ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 18:18   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-08 18:53     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Matt Porter
2002-04-09 14:59     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-09 19:52       ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-10  8:27         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-04-10 15:17           ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11  3:50             ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 15:27               ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-10 10:28         ` Bootloader (Re: CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32) benh
2002-04-10 13:30           ` Dan Malek
2002-04-10 15:16         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11  3:46           ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 15:24             ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11 16:16               ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 15:51                 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Mark A. Greer
2002-04-11 16:59                 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11 17:25                   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 17:42                     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11 17:03                 ` The very common kernel, again... (Was: Re: CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32) Tom Rini
2002-04-11 17:31                   ` The very common kernel, again Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 17:46                     ` Tom Rini
2002-04-10 19:08         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-10 13:20 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Paul Mackerras
2002-04-10 15:23   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 benh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-06 21:39 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-06 22:52 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-04-07  8:34   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-04-07  9:04     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-04-09  8:12     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Schmitz
2002-04-06 22:17 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-06 23:29 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-04-11  3:08 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-10 23:42 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-04-11 17:51 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Mark A. Greer
2002-04-12 12:57 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Paul Mackerras
2002-04-12 11:57   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 benh
2002-04-12 19:02   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-15 15:46     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-15 18:08       ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-15 19:54         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11 15:40 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 15:49 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-04-11 16:13 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 benh
2002-04-11 16:24 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 16:50 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 benh
2002-04-11 17:15 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 20:51 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 19:10 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Mark A. Greer

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