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From: Tom Rini <trini@kernel•crashing.org>
To: Michael Sokolov <msokolov@ivan•Harhan.ORG>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists•linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: The very common kernel, again...
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:46:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020411174655.GD19157@opus.bloom.county> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0204111731.AA29012@ivan.Harhan.ORG>


On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:31:13AM -0700, Michael Sokolov wrote:
>
> Tom Rini <trini@kernel•crashing.org> wrote:
>
> > Why?  Why is it a good thing to put this into 'CONFIG_ALL_PPC' ?  You
> > still end up with 3 images (PReP, vmlinux for pmac/chrp, PPCStar) which
> > I wouldn't think is any worse from N (either the FW lets you load an
> > abitrary kernel off of the CD/HD/whatever, or you have to put on the
> > !vmlinux (in CONFIG_ALL_PPC's case, yaboot) booting kernel else-where.
>
> But we wouldn't have this mess if you guys would just let us have one
> CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 vmlinux with a standardized and stable boot ABI. Then we,
> the people with incentive to sell boards, would do what we need to do with our
> firmware or booters or whatever to boot that standard vmlinux and make it as
> easy as possible for people like Debian to support us in the standard dist.

This has _nothing_ to do with the boot ABI.  The boot ABI for 2.4 hasn't
changed, as far as I can remember anyhow.  The plan for 2.5 is to come
up with and agree upon once and for all (and it seems that it's been
mostly done too).  The question I asked is why do you want to make a
vmlinux that runs on large groups of totally unrelated, save for a CPU
family, mostly, group of computers.

If someone really wanted, they could put 8xx and 4xx into this mess too,
with some complex asm, and have 1 kernel that boots on 4xx/6xx/7xx/74xx/8xx.
I doubt it'd be useful, but it could be done.

>
> MS
>

--
Tom Rini (TR1265)
http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-11 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-06 20:23 CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-06 22:06 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-04-08 15:48 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-08 16:03   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 16:24     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-08 16:48       ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 17:23         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Matt Porter
2002-04-08 17:37           ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 18:07             ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Matt Porter
2002-04-08 18:41               ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Gabriel Paubert
2002-04-08 18:18   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-08 18:53     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Matt Porter
2002-04-09 14:59     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-09 19:52       ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-10  8:27         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-04-10 15:17           ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11  3:50             ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 15:27               ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-10 10:28         ` Bootloader (Re: CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32) benh
2002-04-10 13:30           ` Dan Malek
2002-04-10 15:16         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11  3:46           ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 15:24             ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11 16:16               ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 15:51                 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Mark A. Greer
2002-04-11 16:59                 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11 17:25                   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 17:42                     ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-11 17:03                 ` The very common kernel, again... (Was: Re: CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32) Tom Rini
2002-04-11 17:31                   ` The very common kernel, again Michael Sokolov
2002-04-11 17:46                     ` Tom Rini [this message]
2002-04-10 19:08         ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Tom Rini
2002-04-10 13:20 ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 Paul Mackerras
2002-04-10 15:23   ` CONFIG_GENERIC_PPC32 benh

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