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From: Philippe Guyot <pguyot@cvf•fr>
To: Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo•fr>,
	Hollis Blanchard <hollis@penguinppc•org>
Cc: Ulrich Teichert <krypton@ulrich-teichert•org>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org, mikemartin@linux•ca,
	debian-powerpc@lists•debian.org
Subject: Re: 43p-140 install issues
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:18:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200501051718.19198.pguyot@cvf.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050105160816.GA28046@pegasos>

On Wednesday 05 January 2005 17:08, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:45:13AM -0600, Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> > On Jan 5, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Sven Luther wrote:
> > >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:49:19AM +0100, Philippe Guyot wrote:
> > >>>BTW, i have another question. I am trying to fix debian-installer to
> > >>>create
> > >>>the prep partition, but i would like to have some info on the
> > >>>expected
> > >>>constraints of said partition. Some tell it has to be entirely in
> > >>>the first
> > >>>8MB, others the first 5MB, and my powerstack has a 17MB boot
> > >>>partition
> > >>>right now.
> > >>
> > >>All I can say, it's that my boot PReP partition is the 1st and about
> > >>4 MB in
> > >>size (cannot size it less than 1% of the disk.....)
> > >>second partition is /
> > >>third is swap.
> > >
> > >BTW, for debian, it makes more sense to have the second partition as
> > >swap, and
> > >the third as /, i think, since it was decided some time back to
> > >default to
> > >root=/dev/sda3, and not sda2.
> > >
> > >>That works for me.
> > >
> > >Until the kernel grows beyond 4MB.
> >
> > The size of that partition depends on firmware limitations. I have
> > definitely seen reports of systems not booting when the PReP boot
> > partition was too large. I think on some systems that has even happened
> > at 8MB.
>
> Is the problem really the size of the partition, or the space used by the
> kernel. I mean we could make a 100MB partition at start, and since we just
> dd the kernel to it, the kernel would be found at the start of the
> partition, and the firmware probably doesn't care about the real size of
> the partition, as long as it can access all the kernel data we dded to it,
> no ?

I agree, see the IEEE P1275 on solinno's site. OF determines the load image 
length and transfers only that. I was able to verify that by dumping storage 
after a "load" when debugging boot process.

>
> Do we have some documentation of the firmware limitations ?

Yes, on solinnos's site.

>
> > In other words, should you need more space than 4-5MB at some point in
> > the future, you cannot simply make a bigger boot partition.
>
> 8MB would be good, 4-5MB only would probably be a bit just.
>

Clear.

Friendly.
Felipe

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-05 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <855e88d00412291051792d3daa@mail.gmail.com>
2004-12-31  9:53 ` 43p-140 install issues Sven Luther
2005-01-01  0:54   ` Mike Martin
2005-01-01 13:15     ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-01 15:00       ` Sven Luther
2005-01-01 16:30         ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-01 16:57           ` Sven Luther
2005-01-02  1:15             ` Mike Martin
2005-01-02  9:43               ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03  4:15               ` Mike Martin
2005-01-03  7:05                 ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 13:39                   ` Mike Martin
2005-01-03 14:01                     ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 14:07                       ` Mike Martin
2005-01-03 14:30                         ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 14:30                           ` Philippe Guyot
2005-01-03 14:43                             ` Mike Martin
2005-01-03 15:47                               ` vinai
2005-01-03 14:45                             ` Sven Luther
2005-01-04  4:03                             ` Mike Martin
2005-01-04  8:20                               ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-04  9:23                               ` Philippe Guyot
2005-01-04 11:19                                 ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-04 11:23                                 ` Mike Martin
2005-01-04 13:41                                   ` Mike Martin
2005-01-04 15:23                                     ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-04 15:39                                       ` Mike Martin
2005-01-05  4:36                                         ` Mike Martin
2005-01-05  8:07                                           ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-05 22:09                                             ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-05 11:17                                           ` Leigh Brown
2005-01-06  3:35                                           ` Mike Martin
2005-01-06  8:15                                             ` Sven Luther
2005-01-07  5:10                                             ` Mike Martin
2005-01-07  7:57                                               ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 15:51                     ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-03 16:50                       ` Leigh Brown
2005-01-03 17:28                         ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 19:32                         ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-03 19:42                           ` Leigh Brown
2005-01-03 22:11                             ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-04 22:28                               ` Sven Luther
2005-01-04 22:39                                 ` Leigh Brown
2005-01-05  9:03                                   ` Sven Luther
2005-01-05  9:49                                     ` Philippe Guyot
2005-01-05 10:00                                       ` Leigh Brown
2005-01-05 11:47                                       ` Sven Luther
2005-01-05 14:02                                         ` Philippe Guyot
2005-01-05 15:45                                         ` Hollis Blanchard
2005-01-05 16:08                                           ` Sven Luther
2005-01-05 16:18                                             ` Philippe Guyot [this message]
2005-01-05 16:52                                               ` Hollis Blanchard
2005-01-05 16:30                                             ` Leigh Brown
2005-01-05 17:00                                               ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03  9:56                 ` Philippe Guyot
2005-01-03 10:48                   ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 10:56                     ` Philippe Guyot
2005-01-03 11:17                       ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 11:57                         ` Michael Schmitz
2005-01-03 12:47                           ` Sven Luther
2005-01-03 15:24                             ` Michael Schmitz
2005-01-03 16:04                               ` Sven Luther
2005-01-06 12:19                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2005-01-06 14:02                                   ` Sven Luther
2005-01-02 15:38             ` Ulrich Teichert
2005-01-02 16:41               ` Sven Luther

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