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From: David Gibson <david@gibson•dropbear.id.au>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel•crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Framebuffer: Use dcr infrastructure.
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:57:04 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080508015704.GF5156@yookeroo.seuss> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4777b221c199009151e8f5b7b5f16de3@kernel.crashing.org>

On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:56:44PM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
>> Current standard practice is not to represent the DCR bus as node with
>> subnodes for the DCR-controlled devices.  That's because the DCR bus
>> tends to run in addition to other on-chip busses, and some things have
>> to go on another on-chip bus to make sense, but still have DCR control
>> registers (for example the internal bus bridges on 4xx).
>
> Yeah.
>
>> Arguably for DCR-only devices we should instead have a node
>> representing the DCR bus and just put the devices under it with the
>> DCR number encoded in reg in the normal way.
>
> Right.
>
>> But then its
>> inconsistent with the devices that need the other DCR representation.
>
> OTOH, it _is_ consistent with all other (non-DCR) devices that way.
>
> What you could do right now is to give such DCR-only devices both
> normal "reg" etc., and the "dcr-reg" etc. properties, containing
> both the same info.  If you do that, your device tree will be
> correct (because you got all the standard stuff right), and the
> kernel will like it as well (because it looks for the "dcr-reg"
> stuff).

> Then maybe later, if/when the kernel supports the standard addressing
> for DCR as well, you could drop the "dcr-reg" things from your DTS.
> Or you could just keep it.
>
> David, will this work, do you think?

Um.. yeah, I guess that should work.  Don't forget to slap on
"simple-bus" as appropriate.

>> Segher and I did toss around some ideas for generalizing the DCR
>> representation to a way of representing that any node has some
>> presence on a bus other than its "primary" parent (e.g. other-bus-reg
>> = <&dcr-bus 0x0d0 0x010 &strange-i2c-control-bus 0xabc>).  Then
>> DCR-only devices would use normal "reg", devices that sit on another
>> bus would sit on that bus and use this representation to show their
>> DCR control registers.  Maybe one day.
>
> One day perhaps, yes :-)
>
> It sounds cleaner to split such a prop into separate props per bus.
> Maybe I said the opposite before, heh :-)

No I think you said that before, too, but I'm not sure I agree.
Seperate props per bus (well, per bus type, really) is probably more
human-readable, but a single prop has the advantage that we can have a
common parser that will interpret future variations on this theme
correctly without having to add things to some list of properties to
look for.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-08  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1206401313-1625-1-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-03-28 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/5] [v2][POWERPC] refactor dcr code Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-03-30 22:02   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-01 20:16     ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-04-04 22:02     ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-04-04 22:10       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-18 21:49     ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-04-18 21:55     ` [PATCH 1/2] [v3][POWERPC] " Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-04-19  2:30       ` Grant Likely
2008-04-19  3:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-19 14:35       ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-21  3:56         ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-04-21 13:03           ` Josh Boyer
2008-05-05 17:56             ` [PATCH 0/4] [v4][POWERPC] " Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found]             ` <1210010201-28436-1-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-05-05 17:56               ` [PATCH 1/4] " Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-05-06  0:12                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-06  3:40                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-05-06  4:02                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-06 17:34                     ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-05-06 17:40                       ` Josh Boyer
2008-05-06 18:29                   ` [PATCH 1/4] [v5][POWERPC] " Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found]               ` <1210010201-28436-2-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-05-05 17:56                 ` [PATCH 2/4] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Virtex: Enable dcr for MMIO and NATIVE Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-05-06  0:11                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-06 17:33                     ` [PATCH 2/4] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Virtex: Enable dcr for MMIO andNATIVE Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found]                 ` <1210010201-28436-3-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-05-05 17:56                   ` [PATCH 3/4] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Framebuffer: remove platform device support Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found]                   ` <1210010201-28436-4-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-05-05 17:56                     ` [PATCH 4/4] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Framebuffer: Use dcr infrastructure Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-05-06  4:55                       ` Grant Likely
2008-05-06  6:14                         ` David Gibson
2008-05-06 10:56                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-05-08  1:57                             ` David Gibson [this message]
2008-05-06 17:43                           ` [PATCH 4/4] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Framebuffer: Use dcrinfrastructure Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-05-08  1:59                             ` David Gibson
2008-05-08  4:46                               ` [PATCH 4/4] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Framebuffer: Usedcrinfrastructure Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-05-08  7:01                                 ` David Gibson
     [not found]     ` <1208555704-8978-1-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-04-18 21:55       ` [PATCH 2/2] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Virtex: Enable dcr for MMIO and NATIVE Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-04-19  2:31         ` Grant Likely
     [not found] ` <1206721429-18276-1-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-03-28 16:23   ` [PATCH 2/5] " Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found]   ` <1206721429-18276-2-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-03-28 16:23     ` [PATCH 3/5] [POWERPC] explicit dcr support Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-03-30 22:04       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]     ` <1206721429-18276-3-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-03-28 16:23       ` [PATCH 4/5] [POWERPC] Xilinx: Framebuffer: Use dcr infrastructure Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found]       ` <1206721429-18276-4-git-send-email-stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com>
2008-03-28 16:23         ` [PATCH 5/5] [RFC][PPC] Use DCR for arch ppc, and enable MMIO and NATIVE for virtex Stephen Neuendorffer

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