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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst•de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb•de>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arndbergmann@googlemail•com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn•net>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail•com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat•com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix•de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte•hu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk•ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] macintosh: Explicitly set llseek to no_llseek in ans-lcd
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:54:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091116105427.GA17411@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911021651.53331.arnd@arndb.de>

On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 04:51:52PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> I looked at what places in the code manipulate file->f_pos directly
> and found that almost all the uses in driver code are broken because
> they don't take any locks. Most of them are in driver specific
> lseek operations. Others are in read/write methods and are even
> more broken because the change gets immediately overwritten by
> vfs_read/vfs_write when the driver method returns.
> 
> IMHO, we should complete the pushdown into all ioctl methods
> that John and Thomas have started working on, fixing the lseek
> methods in those files we touch.
> 
> When that is done, all interaction between default_llseek and
> driver locking has to be with explicit calls to lock_kernel
> in those drivers, so we can reasonably well script the search
> for drivers needing the BKL in llseek: everyhing that
>  a) defines file_operations without an llseek function,
>  b) touches f_pos somewhere, and
>  c) calls lock_kernel() somewhere
> That should only be a small number and when they are fixed,
> we can remove default_llseek and instead call generic_file_llseek
> for any file operation without a separate llseek method.

As mentioned before making generic_file_llseek the new default is
probably a bad idea.  The majority of our file_operations instances
don't actually support seeking, so no_llseek should become the new
default if you spend some effort on converting things.  Anything that
wants to allow seeking will have to set a llseek method.  This also
mirrors what we do for other file operations.  None of the major ones
has a non-trivial default, it's either silently succeeding for a
selected few like open or release or returning an error for operatings
that actually do something like read and write.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-16 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091010153314.827301943@linutronix.de>
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 22/28] macintosh: Remove BKL from ans-lcd Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 21:14   ` John Kacur
2009-10-10 23:13     ` Alan Cox
2009-10-10 23:27       ` John Kacur
2009-10-11  9:02   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-21 21:07   ` [PATCH] macintosh: Explicitly set llseek to no_llseek in ans-lcd John Kacur
2009-10-21 21:21     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-21 21:33       ` John Kacur
2009-10-21 21:45         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-21 21:53           ` John Kacur
2009-10-21 22:16             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02 15:51               ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-16 10:54                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-11-16 12:09                   ` Arnd Bergmann

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