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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead•org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat•com>
Cc: ak@linux•intel.com, Michael Ellerman <michaele@au1•ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org, eranian@google•com,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba•org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel•org>,
	dev@codyps•com, Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux•vnet.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists•ozlabs.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel•org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux•vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] tools/perf: support parsing parameterized events
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:59:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141001155957.GD2843@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141001090627.GB5168@krava.brq.redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 11:06:27AM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:25:20PM -0700, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> > Jiri Olsa [jolsa@redhat•com] wrote:
> > | On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:27:15PM -0700, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> > | > From: Cody P Schafer <cody@linux•vnet.ibm.com>
> > | > 
> > | > Enable event specification like:
> > | > 
> > | > 	pmu/event_name,param1=0x1,param2=0x4/
> > | > 
> > | > Assuming that
> > | > 
> > | > 	/sys/bus/event_source/devices/pmu/events/event_name
> > | > 
> > | > Contains something like
> > | > 
> > | > 	param2=foo,bar=1,param1=baz
> > | 
> > | hum, so what happened to the '?' ... AFAIU from out last discussion,
> > | you wanted to mark terms which are mandatory and user must provide
> > | values for them.. and I thought the decision was to have following
> > | alias record:
> > | 
> > |   $ cat /sys/bus/event_source/devices/pmu/events/event_name
> > |   param2=?,bar=1,param1=?
> > | 
> > | while perf would scream if any of param1/2 wasnt filled like for:
> > |   pmu/event_name,param1=0x1/
> > 
> > Sorry, I meant to make perf list consistent with sysfs.
> > 
> > Consider these two sysfs entries:
> > 
> > 	$ cat HPM_0THRD_NON_IDLE_CCYC__PHYS_CORE 
> > 	domain=0x2,offset=0xe0,starting_index=core,lpar=0x0
> > 
> > 	$ cat HPM_0THRD_NON_IDLE_CCYC__VCPU_HOME_CORE 
> > 	domain=0x3,offset=0xe0,starting_index=vcpu,lpar=sibling_guest_id
> > 
> > In the first one, starting_index refers to a 'core' while in the second
> > it refers to a vcpu. This serves as a "hint" for the parameter's meaning.
> > 
> > By replacing both with 'starting_index=?' we lose that hint.
> > 
> > Should we fix both sysfs and 'perf list' to say
> > 
> > 	starting_index=?core 
> 
> Peter, Ingo,
> any opinions on this? Overall explanation is in here:
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=141158688307356&w=2

Consistency is good, and you indeed need to indicate it is a parameter.
I'm not entirely sure about ?core, but I suppose its easy to parse and
clear enough to read.

So the typical optional argument syntax would be like $arg or <type>
like. But overall I have no objection as long as you keep the lot
consistent and parsable.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-01 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-24 19:27 [PATCH v4 00/10] Add support for parameterized events from sysfs Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] tools/perf: support parsing parameterized events Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-25  8:58   ` Jiri Olsa
2014-09-26  2:25     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-10-01  9:06       ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-01 15:59         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] tools/perf: extend format_alias() to include event parameters Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] perf: provide sysfs_show for struct perf_pmu_events_attr Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] powerpc/perf/hv-24x7: parse catalog and populate sysfs with events Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] perf: add PMU_EVENT_ATTR_STRING() helper Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] powerpc/perf/{hv-gpci, hv-common}: generate requests with counters annotated Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] powerpc/perf/hv-gpci: add the remaining gpci requests Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] perf Documentation: add event parameters Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] tools/perf: Document parameterized and symbolic events Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-24 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] powerpc/perf/hv-24x7: Document sysfs event description entries Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-09-30 21:03   ` Cody P Schafer

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