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From: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin•com>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel•org>
Cc: "Christian Zigotzky" <chzigotzky@xenosoft•de>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel•org>,
	"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner•de>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@oss•qualcomm.com>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux•intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger•kernel.org, "mad skateman" <madskateman@gmail•com>,
	"R.T.Dickinson" <rtd2@xtra•co.nz>,
	"Christian Zigotzky" <info@xenosoft•de>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists•ozlabs.org>,
	hypexed@yahoo•com.au, "Darren Stevens" <darren@stevens-zone•net>,
	debian-powerpc@lists•debian.org,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin•com>
Subject: Re: [PPC] Boot problems after the pci-v6.18-changes
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 11:19:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251023111947.6e960216@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vc7ehnmr6tjkkag3j543zwprwqdjyttovav2moo5ravpzzkmbi@qe4tds4e7nc6>

Hi Manivannan,

On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:19:46 +0530
Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel•org> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 09:38:13AM +0200, Herve Codina wrote:
> > Hi Manivannan,
> > 
> > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 18:20:22 +0530
> > Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel•org> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi Herve,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 01:58:11PM +0200, Herve Codina wrote:  
> > > > Hi Christian,
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 13:30:44 +0200
> > > > Christian Zigotzky <chzigotzky@xenosoft•de> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > Hello Herve,
> > > > >     
> > > > > > On 15 October 2025 at 10:39 am, Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin•com> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also observed issues with the commit f3ac2ff14834 ("PCI/ASPM: Enable all
> > > > > > ClockPM and ASPM states for devicetree platforms")      
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for reporting.
> > > > >     
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Also tried the quirk proposed in this discussion (quirk_disable_aspm_all)
> > > > > > an the quirk also fixes the timing issue.      
> > > > > 
> > > > > Where have you added quirk_disable_aspm_all?    
> > > > 
> > > > --- 8< ---
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/quirks.c b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > > > index 214ed060ca1b..a3808ab6e92e 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > > > @@ -2525,6 +2525,17 @@ static void quirk_disable_aspm_l0s_l1(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > > >   */
> > > >  DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ASMEDIA, 0x1080, quirk_disable_aspm_l0s_l1);
> > > >  
> > > > +static void quirk_disable_aspm_all(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > > > +{
> > > > +       pci_info(dev, "Disabling ASPM\n");
> > > > +       pci_disable_link_state(dev, PCIE_LINK_STATE_ALL);    
> > > 
> > > Could you please try disabling L1SS and L0s separately to see which one is
> > > causing the issue? Like,
> > > 
> > > 	pci_disable_link_state(dev, PCIE_LINK_STATE_L1_1 | PCIE_LINK_STATE_L1_2);
> > > 
> > > 	pci_disable_link_state(dev, PCIE_LINK_STATE_L0S);
> > >   
> > 
> > I did tests and here are the results:
> > 
> >   - quirk pci_disable_link_state(dev, PCIE_LINK_STATE_ALL)
> >     Issue not present
> > 
> >   - quirk pci_disable_link_state(dev, PCIE_LINK_STATE_L1_1 | PCIE_LINK_STATE_L1_2)
> >     Issue present, timings similar to timings already reported
> >     (hundreds of ms).
> > 
> >   - quirk pci_disable_link_state(dev, PCIE_LINK_STATE_L0S);
> >     Issue present, timings still incorrect but lower
> >       64 bytes from 192.168.32.100: seq=10 ttl=64 time=16.738 ms
> >       64 bytes from 192.168.32.100: seq=11 ttl=64 time=39.500 ms
> >       64 bytes from 192.168.32.100: seq=12 ttl=64 time=62.178 ms
> >       64 bytes from 192.168.32.100: seq=13 ttl=64 time=84.709 ms
> >       64 bytes from 192.168.32.100: seq=14 ttl=64 time=107.484 ms
> >   
> 
> This is weird. Looks like all ASPM states (L0s, L1ss) are contributing to the
> increased latency, which is more than what should occur. This makes me ignore
> inspecting the L0s/L1 exit latency fields :/
> 
> Bjorn sent out a patch [1] that enables only L0s and L1 by default. But it
> might not help you. I don't honestly know how you are seeing this much of the
> latency. This could the due to an issue in the PCI component (host or endpoint),
> or even the board routing. Identifying which one is causing the issue is going
> to be tricky as it would require some experimentation.

I've just tested the patch from Bjorn and I confirm that it doesn't fix my issue.

> 
> If you are motivated, we can start to isolate this issue to the endpoint first.
> Is it possible for you to connect a different PCI card to your host and check
> whether you are seeing the increased latency? If the different PCI card is not
> exhibiting the same behavior, then the current device is the culprit and we
> should be able to quirk it.

Will see what I can do.

Best regards,
Hervé


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-23  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-30 11:59 Radeon NI: GIT kernel with the nislands_smc commit doesn't boot on a Freescale P5040 board and P.A.Semi Nemo board Christian Zigotzky
2021-04-30 15:26 ` Deucher, Alexander
2021-04-30 15:56   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-05-03 22:25 ` [FSL P50x0] Xorg always restarts again and again after the the PowerPC updates 5.13-1 Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  4:56   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  7:21     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  7:47       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  8:29         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  8:58           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  9:09             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  9:11               ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  9:46                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  9:49                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04 10:07                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 11:02                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 13:48                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 14:48                           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04 14:52                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 14:41                         ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04 14:59                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 15:17                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-05 12:43                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-06  6:12                                 ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-06  7:56                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-06  8:09                                     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-06 13:58                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-08 16:39                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 12:27                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 17:43                                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-09 21:46                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 17:36                                           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13  6:47                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 10:01                                               ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13 15:19                                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 15:51                                                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13 16:35                                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 17:00                                                       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13 20:20                                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 22:58                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-05-14  0:19                                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 14:44                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-06 23:55 ` Radeon NI: GIT kernel with the nislands_smc commit doesn't boot on a Freescale P5040 board and P.A.Semi Nemo board Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-05-07  6:43   ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-08 11:33     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 23:04       ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2023-11-02 14:45       ` Fbdev issue after the drm updates 'drm-next-2023-10-31-1' Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-07  8:36         ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-12 14:23           ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-13 12:48             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-13 13:12               ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-14  9:45               ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-15  8:33                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-15  9:22                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-11-16 13:13                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-04 10:45 ` [VirtIO GPU] Xorg doesn't start with the DRM updates 'drm-next-2021-11-03' in a virtual e5500 QEMU KVM-HV machine on a Freescale P5040 board Christian Zigotzky
     [not found]   ` <20211104214249.1802789-1-vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
2021-11-05 18:05     ` [PATCH] drm/virtio: Fix NULL dereference error in virtio_gpu_poll Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-08 14:48   ` [FSL P50x0] Cyrus+ board doesn't boot with the PowerPC updates 5.16-1 Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-09 14:45     ` [PASEMI] Nemo board doesn't recognize any ATA disks with the pci-v5.16 updates Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-09 15:10       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-09 16:58         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-09 22:40           ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-11-09 23:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-09 23:18               ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-11-10 16:42                 ` Robert Święcki
2021-11-10  3:52             ` Damien Le Moal
2021-11-10 18:07       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-10 18:41         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-10 19:09           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11  5:24             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11  7:13               ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11  7:47                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11 10:20                   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11 10:44                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11 11:24                       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11 11:54                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11 22:21                     ` Olof Johansson
2021-11-12 11:49                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-11-11 17:39         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12  9:40           ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 10:11             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 11:00               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 13:41             ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12 14:15               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 14:46                 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12 15:01                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 15:05                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-08 16:35                       ` [PPC] Boot problems after the pci-v6.18-changes Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-08 16:40                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-10-08 16:47                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-08 19:51                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-09  4:54                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-09  5:37                             ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-11  5:12                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-11  5:25                                 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-11 15:11                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-11 19:34                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-12  7:47                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-12  8:26                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13  4:46                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13  5:02                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13  5:23                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 14:50                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 15:02                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 15:38                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 15:58                                             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-14  4:48                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-14  4:55                                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15  6:41                                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-13 16:01                                         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15  8:13                                     ` Herve Codina
2025-10-15 11:30                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 11:58                                         ` Herve Codina
2025-10-15 12:27                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 12:59                                             ` Herve Codina
2025-10-15 13:14                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 13:17                                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 13:34                                                 ` Herve Codina
2025-10-15 16:54                                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 17:15                                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-16  3:28                                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-16  7:36                                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-16  7:53                                                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-16 10:44                                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-17  5:35                                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 16:23                                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 13:07                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 12:50                                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-23  7:38                                             ` Herve Codina
2025-10-23  8:49                                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-23  9:19                                                 ` Herve Codina [this message]
2025-10-23 16:59                                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-15 23:40                                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-13 21:06                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-14 18:51                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-30 22:11                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-01  5:39                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-01  7:50                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-01  7:59                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-01 17:06                                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-11-03 18:28                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-05 22:09                                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-06  8:48                                       ` Hongxing Zhu
2025-11-06 18:25                                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-07  2:26                                           ` Hongxing Zhu
2025-11-07  5:06                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-11  5:15                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-11 12:20                                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-12  3:40                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-13  0:44                                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-09 16:13     ` [FSL P50x0] Cyrus+ board doesn't boot with the PowerPC updates 5.16-1 Christophe Leroy

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