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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru•mvista.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel•crashing.org>
Cc: ppcdev <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org>,
	linux-mtd@lists•infradead.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga•com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Create "rom" (MTD) device prpmc2800
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:03:02 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46630256.8050909@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d067769912d2ed5c9e1b4770b77303dd@kernel.crashing.org>

Hello.

Segher Boessenkool wrote:
>>> If it's a flash, compatible should be the chip type, and maybe as a
>>> second entry, what type of flash protocol (amd, intel, cfi, ...) it's
>>> compatible.
>>     As I've already (and repatedly) stated before,

> And you repeatedly got answers too, yet you choose
> to rehash this whole discussion again.

    Not I have started it. And I have my reasons, too. :-)

>> this gets you *nothing* WRT
>> selecting the proper driver in the current Linux MTD subsystem.

> Which Linux driver to use is not something that should
> be (directly) communicated in a device tree -- even if

    Bah... what's "name" and "compatible" properties are for then. Nobody's 
talking about the direct match but making the task of selecting a proper 
driver more complex by specifying the details that don't help (if not hinder) 
the correct selection is certainly not a way to go.

> you take the position the device tree is a nice big
> configuration file for Linux, what if a new Linux flash
> subsystem shows up (or even simply a driver got renamed,
> etc.)

    There is no direct match in *this* case (for an example of such, refer to 
FSL "gianfar" nodes ;-).

> -- the device tree on your board doesn't necessarily
> change when your kernel version does.

    Well, I'm not anticipating any changes either in this case...

>> What it
>> actually *needs* to know is flash mapping information,

> It needs to know what kind of flash it is, and how it
> is connected -- i.e., it needs to describe the hardware.
> How Linux then decides to use it is its own game, but
> at least the device tree puts all the information it
> could possibly need out there.

>> the CFI/JEDEC interface then can be deduced by probing

> Most of the time, sure.  Not always.

    That's the way the cookie crumbles in Linux MTD for now. It's *always* 
detecting this by probing -- you only can say what [not] to probe.

>> -- so, this property ("ptobe-type"), although specified in 
>> Documentation/powerpc/booting-without-of.txt, is optional.

> Who is talking about "probe-type"?  We are talking about "compatible". 

    See my other mail where I've told why I don't consider your example of 
this prop valid...

> Segher

WBR, Sergei

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-03 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-02  4:30 [PATCH] powerpc: Create "rom" (MTD) device prpmc2800 Milton Miller
2007-06-02  7:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 16:10   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:36     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:03       ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2007-06-03 18:25         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:36           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:46             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 19:16               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 21:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-04 12:34           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:37             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 14:49               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 14:53           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:49             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 14:47         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:32           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02  8:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 16:22   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:40     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:31       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:44         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 19:13           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:56             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 20:26               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04  8:07                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 13:34                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 15:00                 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:55                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 16:05                     ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 16:46                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-12  4:44                     ` David Gibson
2007-06-12 10:53                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  3:16                         ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  5:05                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  6:11                             ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:10                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  4:12                                 ` David Gibson
2007-06-15 11:22                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  4:14                     ` David Gibson
2007-06-15  8:42                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  8:47                         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15  8:59                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 21:12     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-04  8:11       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 13:16         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 12:41       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:49         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 15:54           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:29 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:45   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:18     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:59         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:48           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 20:10             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04  8:02               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 19:40 ` Mark A. Greer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-01 23:20 Mark A. Greer
2007-06-02  8:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 20:56 ` Mark A. Greer
2007-06-05 20:35   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-05 21:11     ` Mark A. Greer
2007-06-06 12:41       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 15:08         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-06  2:39   ` David Gibson
2007-06-07 13:30     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-12  4:42       ` David Gibson
2007-06-12 10:50         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  6:12           ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:13             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  9:19               ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:37                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14  4:29                   ` David Gibson
2007-06-14  8:00                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:39                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:20                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:48           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:18             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:50         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:43           ` Segher Boessenkool

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