public inbox for netdev@vger.kernel.org 
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx•de>
To: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail•com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch net] net_sched: replace yield() with cond_resched()
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 07:56:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1491371790.4536.151.camel@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM_iQpXpZjpS1ZG7hH-52jt41FzzyMZ0rss9PauaSD54XSQiXQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2017-04-04 at 22:19 -0700, Cong Wang wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx•de> wrote:

> > That won't help, cond_resched() has the same impact upon a lone
> > SCHED_FIFO task as yield() does.. none.
> 
> Hmm? In the comment you quote:
> 
>  * If you want to use yield() to wait for something, use wait_event().
>  * If you want to use yield() to be 'nice' for others, use cond_resched().
> 
> So if cond_resched() doesn't help, why this misleading comment?

This is not an oh let's be nice guys thing, it's a perfect match of...

<copy/paste>
 * while (!event)
 *      yield();
(/copy/paste>

..get off the CPU until this happens thing.  With nobody to yield the C
PU to, some_qdisc_is_busy() will remain true forever more.

> I picked the latter one, because the former is harder to implement
> properly (at least for -net) we need qdisc's to notify this waiter once
> they finish transmitting packets, which means we probably need
> a per-netdevice wait struct.

Yup, why I merely notified net-fu masters of lurking spinner.  I met it
 because I sometimes run most kthreads at prio 1, some prioritized, and
kworkers at prio 2.  (never mind why, but they're excellent reasons)

	-Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-05  5:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-05  1:52 [Patch net] net_sched: replace yield() with cond_resched() Cong Wang
2017-04-05  3:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-04-05  5:19   ` Cong Wang
2017-04-05  5:56     ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2017-04-05 23:42       ` Cong Wang
2017-04-06  1:54         ` Mike Galbraith
2017-04-06 22:13           ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-04-07  3:59             ` Mike Galbraith

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1491371790.4536.151.camel@gmx.de \
    --to=efault@gmx$(echo .)de \
    --cc=netdev@vger$(echo .)kernel.org \
    --cc=xiyou.wangcong@gmail$(echo .)com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox