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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta•de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation•org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation•org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail•com>,
	linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org, netdev@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.23-rc1: BUG_ON in kmap_atomic_prot()
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:07:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070726180721.GN3572@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707241246130.3607@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:48:13PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > 
> > > But do we 
> > > care so much that it's worth inlining something like buffered_rmqueue()? 
> > >...
> > 
> > Where is the problem with having buffered_rmqueue() inlined?
> 
> In this case, it was a pain to just even try to find the call chain, or 
> read the asm.

Optimization versus debugging is a common issue...

As I said, it might make sense to disable this optimization depending on 
some debugging option.

> I would encourage lots of kernel hackers to read the assembler code gcc 
> generates. I suspect people being aware of code generation issues (and 
> writing their code with that in mind) is a *much* bigger performance 
> impact than gcc inlining random functions.
> 
> So maybe I'm old-fashioned and crazy, but "readability of the asm result" 
> actually is a worthwhile goal. Not because we care directly, but because 
> I'd like to encourage people to do it, due to the *indirect* benefits.

This would lead to people trying to optimize code for one gcc version - 
and the code might stay this way for 10 years.

People should write readable C code. This also has the best chances of 
resulting in good performance with the next gcc version on the next 
generation hardware.

> 		Linus

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-26 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707221351030.3607@woody.linux-foundation.org>
     [not found] ` <20070723183839.GA5874@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru>
     [not found]   ` <20070723190152.GA5755@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru>
2007-07-23 20:24     ` 2.6.23-rc1: BUG_ON in kmap_atomic_prot() Andrew Morton
2007-07-23 20:40       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-23 21:01         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-23 21:11           ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-23 21:28             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-23 21:37               ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-07-24 17:59               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-24 18:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-24 18:28                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 19:15                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-24 19:40                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-24 19:48                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:07                           ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-07-26 18:19                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-24 20:27                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-24 19:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26  6:09                   ` commit 7e92b4fc34 - x86, serial: convert legacy COM ports to platform devices - broke my serial console H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-23 22:04             ` 2.6.23-rc1: BUG_ON in kmap_atomic_prot() Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-23 22:27               ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24  5:20                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-24  8:17                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-24  8:22                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-24  8:34                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 14:00                       ` Dan Williams
2007-07-24 13:55                     ` Dan Williams
2007-07-24 10:01       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-24 10:37         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-24 16:28         ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 18:25           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-24 20:05             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-25  5:09             ` Mike Galbraith

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