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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux•vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay•com>
Cc: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm•org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft•net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta•com>,
	benny+usenet@amorsen•dk,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation•org>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap•net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello•nl>,
	Christian Bell <christian@myri•com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] rcu: Introduce hlist_nulls variant of hlist
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:21:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081119212142.GG6753@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4924799D.4010606@cosmosbay.com>

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 09:39:57PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 06:53:20PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>> Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
>>>>> +
>>>>> +/**
>>>>> + * hlist_nulls_del_init_rcu - deletes entry from hash list with 
>>>>> re-initialization
>>>>> + * @n: the element to delete from the hash list.
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * Note: hlist_nulls_unhashed() on the node return true after this. It 
>>>>> is
>>>>> + * useful for RCU based read lockfree traversal if the writer side
>>>>> + * must know if the list entry is still hashed or already unhashed.
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * In particular, it means that we can not poison the forward pointers
>>>>> + * that may still be used for walking the hash list and we can only
>>>>> + * zero the pprev pointer so list_unhashed() will return true after
>>>>> + * this.
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * The caller must take whatever precautions are necessary (such as
>>>>> + * holding appropriate locks) to avoid racing with another
>>>>> + * list-mutation primitive, such as hlist_nulls_add_head_rcu() or
>>>>> + * hlist_nulls_del_rcu(), running on this same list.  However, it is
>>>>> + * perfectly legal to run concurrently with the _rcu list-traversal
>>>>> + * primitives, such as hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu().
>>>>> + */
>>>>> +static inline void hlist_nulls_del_init_rcu(struct hlist_nulls_node 
>>>>> *n)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	if (!hlist_nulls_unhashed(n)) {
>>>>> +		__hlist_nulls_del(n);
>>>>> +		n->pprev = NULL;
>>>>> +	}
>>>>> +}
>>>> The point here is to allow an RCU reader to grab the update-side lock
>>>> while holding a reference to an hlist_nulls_node, and then be able to
>>>> blindly call hlist_nulls_del_init_rcu() without having to do any complex
>>>> check to see if the element has already been deleted?
>>>> But this only works if each free operation waits for a grace period.
>>>> If using SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU, the would-be deleter still needs to
>>>> revalidate after grabbing the update-side lock, right?  Hmmm...
>>> <start a brain refresh cycle>
>>>  <read again your questions>
>>>    Tilt... 
>>> hlist_nulls_del_init_rcu() is only used by a writer, exactly
>>> like hlist_del_init_rcu().
>>> I see nothing special about SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU here.
>>>
>>> static inline void hlist_del_init_rcu(struct hlist_node *n)
>>> {
>>>        if (!hlist_unhashed(n)) {
>>>                __hlist_del(n);
>>>                n->pprev = NULL;
>>>        }
>>> }
>> Not a problem, as you don't use it the way I was thinking.
>> For whatever it is worth, here is a more complete use case, on the
>> off-chance that it becomes useful some time:
>> 	retry:
>> 	rcu_read_lock();
>> 	hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu(tpos, pos, head, hn_node) {
>> 		if (!(curgen = still_valid(tpos)))
>> 			goto retry;
>> 		if (needs_deletion(tpos)) {
>> 			spin_lock(&update_side_lock);
>> 			if (still_valid(tpos) == curgen)
>> 				hlist_nulls_del_init_rcu(pos);
>> 			spin_unlock(&update_side_lock);
>> 		}
>> 	}
>> 	rcu_read_unlock();
>> This approach requires that the key and a generation number be encoded
>> into a single word, and that the generation number be changed on each
>> allocation and on each free.
>
> Hum, we should add this template in Documentation/RCU  I guess

With Arnaldo's change -- probably should prototype and test to find
the other inevitable bugs.  :-/

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-19 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-06 18:50 [PATCH 3/3] Convert the UDP hash lock to RCU Corey Minyard
2008-10-06 21:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-06 21:40   ` David Miller
2008-10-06 23:08     ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-07  8:37       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-07 14:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-07 14:29           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-07 14:38             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-07 14:33           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-07 14:45             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-07 15:07               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07 15:07               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-07  5:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07  8:54       ` Benny Amorsen
2008-10-07 12:59         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07 14:07           ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-07 20:55             ` David Miller
2008-10-07 21:20               ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-08 13:55               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-08 18:45                 ` David Miller
2008-10-28 20:37                   ` [PATCH 1/2] udp: introduce struct udp_table and multiple rwlocks Eric Dumazet
2008-10-28 21:23                     ` Christian Bell
2008-10-28 21:31                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-28 21:48                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-28 21:28                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-28 20:42                   ` [PATCH 2/2] udp: RCU handling for Unicast packets Eric Dumazet
2008-10-28 22:45                     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29  5:05                       ` David Miller
2008-10-29  8:23                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29  8:56                           ` David Miller
2008-10-29 10:19                             ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 18:19                               ` David Miller
2008-10-29  9:04                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29  9:17                             ` David Miller
2008-10-29 13:17                             ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-29 14:36                               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 15:34                                 ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-29 16:09                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 16:37                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-29 17:22                                       ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-29 17:45                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 18:28                                           ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-29 18:52                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-29 20:00                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 20:17                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-29 21:29                                                   ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-29 21:57                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 21:58                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-29 22:08                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30  3:22                                                     ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-30  5:50                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-02  4:19                                                         ` David Miller
2008-10-30  5:40                                                     ` David Miller
2008-10-30  5:51                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30  7:04                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30  7:05                                                           ` David Miller
2008-10-30 15:40                                                     ` [PATCH] udp: Introduce special NULL pointers for hlist termination Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 15:51                                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-30 16:28                                                         ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-31 14:37                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 14:55                                                             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-11-02  4:22                                                               ` David Miller
2008-10-30 17:12                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31  7:51                                                           ` David Miller
2008-10-30 16:01                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-31  0:14                                                       ` Keith Owens
2008-11-13 13:13                                                       ` [PATCH 0/3] net: RCU lookups for UDP, DCCP and TCP protocol Eric Dumazet
2008-11-13 17:20                                                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-17  3:41                                                         ` David Miller
2008-11-19 19:52                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-13 13:14                                                       ` [PATCH 1/3] rcu: Introduce hlist_nulls variant of hlist Eric Dumazet
2008-11-13 13:29                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-13 13:44                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-13 16:02                                                             ` [PATCH 4/3] rcu: documents rculist_nulls Eric Dumazet
2008-11-14 15:16                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-17  3:36                                                                 ` David Miller
2008-11-19 17:07                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-14 15:16                                                         ` [PATCH 1/3] rcu: Introduce hlist_nulls variant of hlist Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-19 17:01                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-19 17:53                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-19 18:46                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-19 18:53                                                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-11-19 21:17                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-19 20:39                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-19 21:21                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-11-13 13:15                                                       ` [PATCH 2/3] udp: Use hlist_nulls in UDP RCU code Eric Dumazet
2008-11-19 17:29                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-19 17:53                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-13 13:15                                                       ` [PATCH 3/3] net: Convert TCP & DCCP hash tables to use RCU / hlist_nulls Eric Dumazet
2008-11-13 13:34                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-13 13:51                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-13 14:08                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-13 14:22                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-13 14:27                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-19 17:53                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-23  9:33                                                         ` [PATCH] net: Convert TCP/DCCP listening hash tables to use RCU Eric Dumazet
2008-11-23 15:59                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-23 18:42                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-23 19:17                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-23 20:18                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-23 22:33                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-24  1:23                                                           ` David Miller
2008-10-30 11:04                                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] udp: RCU handling for Unicast packets Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-30 11:30                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 18:25                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-31 16:40                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-01  3:10                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-29 17:32                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 18:11                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-29 18:29                                           ` David Miller
2008-10-29 18:38                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-29 18:36                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-29 18:20                                 ` David Miller
2008-10-30 11:12                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-30 11:29                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-28 20:37                 ` [PATCH 0/2] udp: Convert the UDP hash lock to RCU Eric Dumazet
2008-10-28 21:28                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-28 21:50                     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07 16:43           ` [PATCH 3/3] " Corey Minyard
2008-10-07 18:26       ` David Miller
2008-10-08  8:35         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-08 16:38           ` David Miller
2008-10-07  8:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-07 14:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-07 18:29       ` David Miller
2008-10-06 22:07   ` Corey Minyard
2008-10-07  8:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-07  9:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07 14:15       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-07 14:38         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-07 14:50         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07 15:05           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-07 15:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-07 15:23           ` Christoph Lameter

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