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From: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring•com>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp•com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor•apana.org.au>,
	ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki•fi, zbr@ioremap•net,
	bert.hubert@netherlabs•nl, h.willstrand@gmail•com,
	netdev@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: sendfile()? Re: SO_LINGER dead: I get an immediate RST on 2.6.24?
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:32:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090114033243.49c54c19.billfink@mindspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <496D9D8A.8080804@hp.com>

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Rick Jones wrote:

> >>How likely is it that the "additional small delay" above would be much 
> >>less than waiting for a read return of zero after a shutdown(SHUT_WR) call?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.  I did consider doing
> > something like what you suggested, but in the end decided it was simpler
> > to deal with a fully ESTABLISHED connection, than worrying about possible
> > races with a socket being (partially or fully) closed.
> 
> Ostensibly, using a shutdown(SHUT_WR) and then a wait for a recv return 
> of zero would take about the same length of time as polling local 
> connection stats to see that there were no ostensibly unacked data - 
> both will take one RTT right?  and shutdown/read has the added property 
> that it will deal with zero windows automagically.

With the shutdown(SHUT_WR)/read() approach, I would have had to set
a timeout on the read, to handle the case where the peer just went
away, whereas currently I just check elapsed time (I strive to make
nuttcp robust in such cases to allow it to be used reliably within
scripts run for example from cron).

Also, I was (perhaps unncessarily) worried that after the zero read(),
the socket would effectively be closed, and I wasn't sure then about
the reliability of using tcp_info to get the tcpi_total_retrans at that
point.

As with most things, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

						-Bill

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-14  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-13  6:32 sendfile()? Re: SO_LINGER dead: I get an immediate RST on 2.6.24? Herbert Xu
2009-01-13  6:56 ` Bill Fink
2009-01-13  7:01   ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  7:43     ` Bill Fink
2009-01-14  8:29       ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  9:05         ` Bill Fink
2009-01-14 11:30           ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-15  6:33             ` Bill Fink
2009-01-13  7:06   ` Rick Jones
2009-01-14  8:05     ` Bill Fink
2009-01-14  8:08       ` Rick Jones
2009-01-14  8:32         ` Bill Fink [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-11 21:23 bert hubert
2009-01-11 22:08 ` H. Willstrand
2009-01-11 22:45   ` sendfile()? " bert hubert
2009-01-11 22:54     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-11 23:08       ` bert hubert
2009-01-11 23:18         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12  4:50           ` Bill Fink
2009-01-12  9:18             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2009-01-13  5:31               ` Bill Fink
2009-02-13 17:02                 ` Jeremy Jackson
2009-02-20 18:10                   ` Bill Fink

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