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From: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring•com>
To: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail•com>
Cc: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp•com>,
	Steven Brudenell <steven.brudenell@gmail•com>,
	netdev@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: tbf/htb qdisc limitations
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:13:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101014031354.e172d737.billfink@mindspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101014064404.GA6219@ff.dom.local>

On Thu, 14 Oct, Jarek Poplawski wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:36:53PM -0400, Bill Fink wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 03:17:18PM -0700, Rick Jones wrote:
> > > >>> my burst problem is the only semi-legitimate motivation i can think
> > > >>> of. the only other possible motivations i can imagine are setting
> > > >>> "limit" to buffer more than 4GB of packets and setting "rate" to
> > > >>> something more than 32 gigabit; both of these seem kind of dubious. is
> > > >>> there something else you had in mind?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> No, mainly 10 gigabit rates and additionally 64-bit stats.
> > > >
> > > > Any issue for bonded 10 GbE interfaces?  Now that the IEEE have ratified 
> > > > (June) how far out are 40 GbE interfaces?  Or 100 GbE for that matter.
> > > 
> > > Alas packet schedulers using rate tables are still around 1G. Above 2G
> > > they get less and less accurate, so hfsc is recommended.
> > 
> > I was just trying to do an 8 Gbps rate limit on a 10-GigE path,
> > and couldn't get it to work with either htb or tbf.  Are you
> > saying this currently isn't possible?
> 
> Let's start from reminding that no precise packet scheduling should be
> expected with gso/tso etc. turned on. I don't know current hardware
> limits for such a non-gso traffic, but for 8 Gbit rate htb or tbf
> would definitely have wrong rate tables (overflowed values) for packet
> sizes below 1500 bytes.

TSO/GSO was disabled and was using 9000-byte jumbo frames
(and specified mtu 9000 to tc command).

Here was one attempt I made using tbf:

tc qdisc add dev eth2 root handle 1: prio
tc qdisc add dev eth2 parent 1:1 handle 10: tbf rate 8900mbit buffer 1112500 limit 10000 mtu 9000
tc filter add dev eth2 protocol ip parent 1: prio 1 u32 match ip dst 192.168.1.23 flowid 10:1

I tried many variations of the above, all without success.

> > Or are you saying to use
> > this hfsc mechanism, which there doesn't seem to be a man page
> > for?
> 
> There was a try:
> http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2009/02/26/138

Thanks for the pointer.  I will check it out later in detail,
but I'm already having difficulty with deciding if I have the
tc commands right for tbf and htb, and hfsc looks even more
involved.

					-Bill

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-14  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-08 20:58 tbf/htb qdisc limitations Steven Brudenell
2010-10-10 11:23 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-11 22:27   ` Steven Brudenell
2010-10-12 10:10     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-12 19:31       ` Steven Brudenell
2010-10-12 21:59         ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-12 22:17           ` Rick Jones
2010-10-13  6:26             ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-14  3:36               ` Bill Fink
2010-10-14  4:01                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-14  6:34                   ` Bill Fink
2010-10-14  6:44                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-14  7:13                   ` Bill Fink [this message]
2010-10-14  8:09                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-14  8:50                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-15  6:37                         ` Bill Fink
2010-10-15  6:44                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-15 21:37                             ` Bill Fink
2010-10-15 22:05                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-16  4:51                                 ` Bill Fink
2010-10-16 20:58                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-17  1:24                                     ` Bill Fink
2010-10-17 20:36                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-19  7:37                                         ` Bill Fink
2010-10-20 11:06                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-27  4:51                                             ` Bill Fink
2010-10-27  9:48                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-10-15  8:18                           ` Jarek Poplawski

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