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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber•org>
To: vyasevic@redhat•com
Cc: bridge@lists•linux-foundation.org, davem@davemloft•net,
	netdev@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 net-next 00/12] Add basic VLAN support to bridges
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:57:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130207145755.5a65062a@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51142F20.4050008@redhat.com>

On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:48:00 -0500
Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat•com> wrote:

> On 02/04/2013 11:58 AM, Vlad Yasevich wrote:
> > On 02/04/2013 11:24 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >> One thing I am not clear about is whether is supposed to be just
> >> a simple filter of VLAN traffic, or a full VLAN aware bridge.
> >
> > I started with the concept of basic VLAN filtering, but it has been
> > morphing into more of a VLAN away bridge.
> >
> >>
> >> The change to make FDB entries per-VLAN seems to be the biggest tipping
> >> point into a full VLAN bridge. I am concerned that might break existing
> >> API's and Spanning Tree (internal and external).
> >>
> >
> > I debated for a while about whether per-VLAN FDB entries were needed.
> > The typing point was that without it, you may end up with flopping FDB
> > and possible packet drops or vlan leaks, if say 2 different VMs used the
> > same MAC but different VLANs.  Without it, there is an exploitable gap.
> >
> > I've also tried to separate FDB code changes as much as possible.  If
> > you really thing this is a big risk and a barrier to entry, then we can
> > drop them.  I am just concerned about the hole I described above, but I
> > guess it is not much different then what's there now.
> >
> 
> So I played with STP for quite a bit and found the FDB changes have 
> absolutely no effect on operation of STP.
> Since all the vlan filtering code is mostly in forwarding path, STP 
> works just fine.
> Looking at STP code (the one in the kernel), I don't see any 
> dependencies on FDB.  The only userspace code I can find is from here
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/shemminger/rstp.git.  That 
> only seems to ask for RTM_GETLINK, and there you will not get any vlan 
> information if you don't set the filter flags.
> 
> So, I don't see any API impact as far as STP is concerned.

Good, does bridge command (in newer iproute2) still work?

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-07 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-01 20:01 [PATCH v9 net-next 00/12] Add basic VLAN support to bridges Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 01/12] bridge: Add vlan filtering infrastructure Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-02  1:04   ` Michał Mirosław
2013-02-02  2:11     ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 02/12] bridge: Validate that vlan is permitted on ingress Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-02  1:04   ` Michał Mirosław
2013-02-02  2:13     ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 03/12] bridge: Verify that a vlan is allowed to egress on give port Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 04/12] bridge: Add netlink interface to configure vlans on bridge ports Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 05/12] bridge: Add the ability to configure pvid Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-02  1:04   ` Michał Mirosław
2013-02-02  1:15     ` Michał Mirosław
2013-02-02  2:22       ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-03 14:49         ` Michał Mirosław
2013-02-03 15:20           ` Michał Mirosław
2013-02-04 16:59           ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 06/12] bridge: Implement vlan ingress/egress policy Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 07/12] bridge: Add vlan to unicast fdb entries Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 08/12] bridge: Add vlan id to multicast groups Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 09/12] bridge: Add vlan support to static neighbors Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 10/12] bridge: Add vlan support for local fdb entries Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 11/12] bridge: Dump vlan information from a bridge port Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-01 20:02 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 12/12] bridge: Separate egress policy bitmap Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-04 16:24 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 00/12] Add basic VLAN support to bridges Stephen Hemminger
2013-02-04 16:58   ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-07 22:48     ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-07 22:57       ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2013-02-07 23:00         ` Vlad Yasevich

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