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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux•vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail•com>
Cc: Cong Wang <cwang@twopensource•com>,
	Tom Herbert <therbert@google•com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: suspicious RCU usage in net/ipv4/ip_tunnel.c:80
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:53:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140114045316.GV10038@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1389601233.31367.213.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:20:33AM -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-01-12 at 22:36 -0800, Cong Wang wrote:
> > > Please read rcu_dereference_protected() documentation in
> > > include/linux/rcupdate.h
> > 
> > I did before I replied.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > >
> > > Also you can run sparse, with CONFIG_SPARSE_RCU_POINTER=y in
> > > your .config
> > >
> > > make C=2 net/ipv4/ip_tunnel.o
> > >
> > > And then you'll know the answer to this question.
> > >
> > 
> > Sounds like it is only to shut up a sparse warning, then its name
> > is misleading, we clearly don't dereference it here.

OK, I'll bite...  This code invokes dst_release() which looks to me
like it dereferences this pointer:

void dst_release(struct dst_entry *dst)
{
	if (dst) {
		int newrefcnt;

		newrefcnt = atomic_dec_return(&dst->__refcnt);
		WARN_ON(newrefcnt < 0);
		if (unlikely(dst->flags & DST_NOCACHE) && !newrefcnt) {
			dst = dst_destroy(dst);
			if (dst)
				__dst_free(dst);
		}
	}
}

If you really were not dereferencing the pointer, for example, if you
were only testing it against NULL or some such, then you can use
rcu_access_pointer().  This is a bit cheaper on DEC Alpha, FWIW.

You can think of rcu_dereference() as meaning "fetch this RCU-protected
pointer with intent to dereference()" if that helps.

Or am I missing your point?

> Historical reasons, you should have been there when Paul invented the
> name and lazy people like us let him do so !
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=b62730baea32f86fe91a7930e4b7ee8d82778b79

Indeed!  ;-)

And rcu_dereference() is at least an improvement over the earlier
hand-placed smp_read_barrier_depends().

							Thanx, Paul

> You are lucky, there is plenty of documentation, maybe too much..
> 
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-14  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-11  0:37 suspicious RCU usage in net/ipv4/ip_tunnel.c:80 Cong Wang
2014-01-11  1:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-11 19:15   ` Cong Wang
2014-01-12 17:44     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-13  6:36       ` Cong Wang
2014-01-13  8:20         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-14  4:53           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-01-17  0:26             ` Cong Wang
2014-01-17  0:49               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-13 19:35   ` Cong Wang

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