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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn•ch>
To: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr•com>
Cc: Mason <slash.tmp@free•fr>, netdev <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail•com>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora•org>,
	Sergei Shtylyov <sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded•com>,
	Zefir Kurtisi <zefir.kurtisi@neratec•com>,
	Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@gmail•com>,
	Uwe Kleine-Konig <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix•de>,
	Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail•com>,
	Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte•net>
Subject: Re: Ethernet not working on a different SoC with same eth HW
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 16:17:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161104151744.GG3600@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xpombjnfn.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com>

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 03:05:00PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn•ch> writes:
> 
> >> > I agree with you. But fixing it is likely to break boards which
> >> > currently have "rgmii", but actually need the delay in order to work.
> >> 
> >> Does the internal delay here refer to the PHY or the MAC?  It's a
> >> property of the MAC node after all.
> >
> > It is the PHY which applies the delay.
> 
> Says who?

The source code.

>  Some MACs can do it too.

I'm sure they can. But look at the code. Nearly none do, and those
that do are potentially broken.
 
> There is also no way to specify the amount of delay required even though
> many devices support more than one value.

Those PHYs that which support variable delays add there own device
tree properties. See for example Micrel KSZ9021/KSZ9031 Gigabit Ethernet PHY

     Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-04 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-31 15:29 Ethernet not working on a different SoC with same eth HW Mason
2016-10-31 15:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2016-10-31 15:48   ` Mason
2016-10-31 15:53     ` Andrew Lunn
2016-10-31 16:28       ` Mason
2016-11-04 13:01         ` Mason
2016-11-04 13:40           ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-04 13:51             ` Mason
2016-11-04 13:57               ` Andrew Lunn
2016-11-04 14:01                 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-11-04 14:04                 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-04 14:13                   ` Mason
2016-11-04 14:22                   ` Andrew Lunn
2016-11-04 15:05                     ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-04 15:17                       ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2016-11-04 15:22                         ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-04 16:45                           ` Florian Fainelli
2016-11-04 16:55                             ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-04 17:06                               ` Mason
2016-10-31 15:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2016-11-08 15:41 ` Mason
2016-11-09 17:38   ` Mason

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