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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public•gmane.org>
To: Christian Borntraeger
	<borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public•gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public•gmane.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public•gmane.org>,
	Andrey Ryabinin
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	Alexander Potapenko
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	"David S . Miller"
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	Paul McKenney
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/26] rewrite READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 15:49:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170303144938.GF6557@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f86cf852-3960-0dcf-5917-509080ca7bf5-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 09:26:50AM +0100, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> Right. The main purpose is to read/write _ONCE_. You can assume a somewhat
> atomic access for sizes <= word size. And there are certainly places that
> rely on that. But the *ONCE thing is mostly used for things where we used
> barrier() 10 years ago.

A lot of code relies on READ/WRITE_ONCE() to generate single
instructions for naturally aligned machined word sized loads/stores
(something GCC used to guarantee, but does no longer IIRC).

So much so that I would say its a bug if READ/WRITE_ONCE() doesn't
generate a single instruction under those conditions.

However, every time I've tried to introduce stricter
semantics/primitives to verify things Linus hated it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-03 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-02 16:38 [PATCH 00/26] bring back stack frame warning with KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 01/26] compiler: introduce noinline_for_kasan annotation Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 13:50   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-03-03 13:55     ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-03-03 14:30       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 14:33         ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-03-03 14:51           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 16:34     ` David Laight
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 02/26] rewrite READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:51   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-03-02 17:55     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 19:00       ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-03-02 21:45         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]           ` <CAK8P3a2mepCjPfM9Ychk7CHFHi0UW8RBzK4skJKMSOjw3gKoYg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03  8:26             ` Christian Borntraeger
     [not found]               ` <f86cf852-3960-0dcf-5917-509080ca7bf5-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03  9:54                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 14:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-03-03 14:57                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 03/26] typecheck.h: avoid local variables in typecheck() macro Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 04/26] tty: kbd: reduce stack size with KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 05/26] netlink: mark nla_put_{u8,u16,u32} noinline_for_kasan Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 06/26] rocker: mark rocker_tlv_put_* functions as noinline_for_kasan Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 07/26] brcmsmac: reduce stack size with KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-06  9:16   ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-03-06 10:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-06 11:02       ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-03-06 11:16         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-06 11:18           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 08/26] brcmsmac: make some local variables 'static const' to reduce stack size Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]   ` <20170302163834.2273519-9-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06  9:30     ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-03-06 16:19       ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]         ` <87y3wi74y8.fsf-5ukZ45wKbUHoml4zekdYB16hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 21:34           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-07  9:44             ` Kalle Valo
2017-03-07  9:55               ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 09/26] brcmsmac: split up wlc_phy_workarounds_nphy Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-06  9:31   ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 10/26] brcmsmac: reindent split functions Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-06  9:33   ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-03-06 16:24     ` Kalle Valo
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 11/26] rtlwifi: reduce stack usage for KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 12/26] wl3501_cs: reduce stack size " Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <20170302163834.2273519-1-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-02 16:38   ` [PATCH 13/26] rtl8180: " Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38   ` [PATCH 23/26] mtd: cfi: reduce stack size with KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 14/26] [media] dvb-frontends: reduce stack size in i2c access Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 15/26] [media] tuners: i2c: reduce stack usage for tuner_i2c_xfer_* Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 16/26] [media] i2c: adv7604: mark register access as noinline_for_kasan Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 17/26] [media] i2c: ks0127: reduce stack frame size for KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 18/26] [media] i2c: cx25840: avoid stack overflow with KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 19/26] [media] r820t: mark register functions as noinline_for_kasan Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 20/26] [media] em28xx: split up em28xx_dvb_init to reduce stack size Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 21/26] drm/bridge: ps8622: reduce stack size for KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 22/26] drm/i915/gvt: don't overflow the kernel stack with KASAN Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 24/26] ocfs2: reduce stack size " Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 17:46   ` Joe Perches
2017-03-02 22:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]       ` <CAK8P3a1gW9UqMKD2ijzxMH4rv1zAji0GUoz+bLY_oi0yvLU1cw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-02 22:40         ` Joe Perches
2017-03-02 22:59           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 23:58             ` Joe Perches
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 25/26] isdn: eicon: mark divascapi incompatible with kasan Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 14:20   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-03-03 14:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 15:22       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-03-03 15:37         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 26/26] kasan: rework Kconfig settings Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 14:51   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-03-03 15:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-03-03 12:25 ` [PATCH 00/26] bring back stack frame warning with KASAN Alexander Potapenko
2017-03-03 12:54   ` Arnd Bergmann

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