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From: Simon Horman <simon.horman@netronome•com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail•com>
Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox•net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber•org>,
	Phil Sutter <phil@nwl•cc>, David Miller <davem@davemloft•net>,
	netdev@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] iproute: Add support for extended ack to rtnl_talk
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:31:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170804113147.GA25254@vergenet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d84bd27-2fd1-68c0-5787-0195e95ab1af@gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 02:26:58PM -0600, David Ahern wrote:
> On 5/18/17 10:24 PM, David Ahern wrote:
> > On 5/18/17 3:02 AM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> >> So effectively this means libmnl has to be used for new stuff, noone
> >> has time to do the work to convert the existing tooling over (which
> >> by itself might be a challenge in testing everything to make sure
> >> there are no regressions) given there's not much activity around
> >> lib/libnetlink.c anyway, and existing users not using libmnl today
> >> won't see/notice new improvements on netlink side when they do an
> >> upgrade. So we'll be stuck with that dual library mess pretty much
> >> for a very long time. :(
> > 
> > lib/libnetlink.c with all of its duplicate functions weighs in at just
> > 947 LOC -- a mere 12% of the code in lib/. From a total SLOC of iproute2
> > it is a negligible part of the code base.
> > 
> > Given that, there is very little gain -- but a lot of risk in
> > regressions -- in converting such a small, low level code base to libmnl
> > just for the sake of using a library - something Phil noted in his
> > cursory attempt at converting ip to libmnl. ie., The level effort
> > required vs the benefit is just not worth it.
> > 
> > There are so many other parts of the ip code base that need work with a
> > much higher return on the time investment.
> > 
> 
> Stephen: It has been 3 months since the first extack patches were posted
> and still nothing in iproute2, all of it hung up on your decision to
> require libmnl. Do you plan to finish the libmnl support any time soon
> and send out patches?

FWIIW I would also like to see some way to get this enhancement accepted.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-04 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-03 23:56 [RFC] iproute: Add support for extended ack to rtnl_talk Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-04  9:36 ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-05-04 14:27   ` David Ahern
2017-05-04 14:41     ` David Miller
2017-05-04 15:50       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-05-04 16:43       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-04 20:43         ` Phil Sutter
2017-05-14  1:29           ` David Ahern
2017-05-16 16:36             ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-18 10:02               ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-05-18 14:55                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-19  4:24                 ` David Ahern
2017-08-03 20:26                   ` David Ahern
2017-08-04 11:31                     ` Simon Horman [this message]
2017-08-04 16:47                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-07 16:48                         ` David Ahern
2017-08-07 18:06                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-07 18:09                             ` David Ahern
2017-08-07 18:45                               ` David Miller
2017-08-07 19:12                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-07 20:26                                   ` David Miller
2017-08-07 21:21                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-04 14:37   ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 16:45     ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-04 17:55       ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-06 10:36         ` Jiri Pirko
2017-05-04 16:42   ` Stephen Hemminger

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