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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen•de>
To: "Machnikowski, Maciej" <maciej.machnikowski@intel•com>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen•de>,
	Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail•net>,
	"netdev@vger•kernel.org" <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	"intel-wired-lan@lists•osuosl.org"
	<intel-wired-lan@lists•osuosl.org>,
	"richardcochran@gmail•com" <richardcochran@gmail•com>,
	"abyagowi@fb•com" <abyagowi@fb•com>,
	"Nguyen, Anthony L" <anthony.l.nguyen@intel•com>,
	"davem@davemloft•net" <davem@davemloft•net>,
	"kuba@kernel•org" <kuba@kernel•org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger•kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger•kernel.org>,
	"idosch@idosch•org" <idosch@idosch•org>,
	"mkubecek@suse•cz" <mkubecek@suse•cz>,
	"saeed@kernel•org" <saeed@kernel•org>,
	"michael.chan@broadcom•com" <michael.chan@broadcom•com>,
	"petrm@nvidia•com" <petrm@nvidia•com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 net-next 2/6] rtnetlink: Add new RTM_GETEECSTATE message to get SyncE status
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 16:41:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211116154111.GF6326@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MW5PR11MB58124A70268058505368A5C8EA999@MW5PR11MB5812.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Machnikowski, Maciej <maciej.machnikowski@intel•com> wrote:
> > More importantly, why is this added to rtnetlink (routing sockets)?
> > It appears to be unrelated?
> > 
> > Looks like this should be in ethtool (it has netlink api nowadays) or
> > devlink.
> 
> We identified it as a generic place in previous RFCs.

Doesn't answer my question.  EECSTATE doesn't appear to be related to
anything else thats currently exposed via rtnetlink from a conceptional
point of view.

> Ethtool calls are not
> available in non-ethernet packet networks

Thats news to me.  ethtool ops are linked via netdevice struct.

> and the concept of that functionality
> is - any packet network can implement it - SONET, GPON or even wireless.

Ethtool ops expose a wide range of low-level functions not related to
ethernet, e.g. eeprom dump, interrupt coalescing settings of and so on
and so forth.

But hey, if net maintainers are ok with rtnetlink...

I just feel putting synce interaction in rtnetlink is arbitrary
and bad precendence.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-16 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-10 11:44 [PATCH v3 net-next 0/6] Add RTNL interface for SyncE Maciej Machnikowski
2021-11-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 1/6] ice: add support detecting features based on netlist Maciej Machnikowski
2021-11-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 2/6] rtnetlink: Add new RTM_GETEECSTATE message to get SyncE status Maciej Machnikowski
2021-11-11 16:01   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2021-11-11 16:22     ` Florian Westphal
2021-11-16 14:40       ` Machnikowski, Maciej
2021-11-16 15:41         ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2021-11-16 19:30           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-16 14:37     ` Machnikowski, Maciej
2021-11-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 3/6] ice: add support for reading SyncE DPLL state Maciej Machnikowski
2021-11-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 4/6] rtnetlink: Add support for SyncE recovered clock configuration Maciej Machnikowski
2021-11-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 5/6] ice: add support for SyncE recovered clocks Maciej Machnikowski
2021-11-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 6/6] docs: net: Add description of SyncE interfaces Maciej Machnikowski
2021-11-11 12:43   ` Petr Machata
2021-11-15 10:24     ` Machnikowski, Maciej
2021-11-16 11:07       ` Petr Machata
2021-11-16 11:52       ` Petr Machata
2021-11-16 14:26         ` Machnikowski, Maciej

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