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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel•org>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail•com>
Cc: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin•com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn•ch>,
	"Vladimir Oltean" <vladimir.oltean@nxp•com>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux•org.uk>,
	netdev@vger•kernel.org, glipus@gmail•com,
	maxime.chevallier@bootlin•com, vadim.fedorenko@linux•dev,
	gerhard@engleder-embedded•com, thomas.petazzoni@bootlin•com,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro•org, robh+dt@kernel•org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v4 2/5] net: Expose available time stamping layers to user space.
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:47:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230905114717.4a166f79@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZPYYFFxhALYnmXrx@hoboy.vegasvil.org>

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:47:00 -0700 Richard Cochran wrote:
> > > Clock ID is a bit vague too, granted, but in practice clock ID should
> > > correspond to the driver fairly well? My thinking was - use clock ID
> > > to select the (silicon) device, use a different attribute to select 
> > > the stamping point.  
> 
> I've never heard of a device that has different time stamping points.
> If one ever appeared, then it ought to present two interfaces.
> 
> > > IOW try to use the existing attribute before inventing a new one.  
> > 
> > What do you think of using the clock ID to select the timestamp layer, and add
> > a ts_layer field in ts_info that will describe the timestamp layer. This allow
> > to have more information than the vague clock ID. We set it in the driver.
> > With it, we could easily add new layers different than simple mac and phy.
> > I am currently working on this implementation.  
> 
> I think you should model the layers explicitly.

Maybe we should try to enumerate the use cases, I don't remember now
but I think the concern was that there may be multiple PHYs?

(Using [] to denote a single device)

#0    integrated NIC: [DMA MAC PHY]
#1       "Linux" NIC: [DMA MAC][PHY]
#2   DSA switch trap: [DMA MAC][MAC PHY]
#3 DSA switch switch: [PHY MAC  MAC PHY]
#4   DSA distributed: [PHY MAC][MAC PHY]

All these should be fine with netdev + layer, IIUC.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-05 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 17:33 [PATCH net-next RFC v4 0/5] net: Make MAC/PHY time stamping selectable Köry Maincent
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 1/5] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 13:16   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 13:49     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 16:56       ` Richard Cochran
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 2/5] net: Expose available time stamping layers to user space Köry Maincent
2023-04-07  1:46   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07  8:58     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-07 14:26       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07 14:44         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:58       ` Jacob Keller
2023-04-12 10:50     ` Michael Walle
2023-04-12 11:08       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 11:12         ` Michael Walle
2023-04-12 12:19         ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 20:36     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 20:50       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-11 20:55         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-11 21:02           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 22:09             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 23:07               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:16                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-12 10:29                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-12 17:38                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:19                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:46                         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-17 20:07                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-09-04 15:22                             ` Köry Maincent
2023-09-04 17:47                               ` Richard Cochran
2023-09-05 18:47                                 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-09-05 20:29                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-06  9:22                                     ` Köry Maincent
2023-09-07  9:29                                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-19 13:28                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-19 20:22                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-22  3:56                           ` Zulkifli, Muhammad Husaini
2023-05-22 20:04                             ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-22 20:21                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-23  3:54                                 ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-17 22:01                   ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-17 22:13     ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-17 22:46       ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-18 23:23         ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-19 12:50           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-19 13:50             ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-19 15:18               ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-08 14:06   ` Richard Cochran
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 3/5] dt-bindings: net: phy: add timestamp preferred choice property Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 13:14   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 13:44     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-29 17:42       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-02  9:10         ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:10           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 13:25             ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:56               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 14:22                 ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 14:14   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 4/5] net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Köry Maincent
2023-04-07  1:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-29 17:58   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-02 11:05     ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:48       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 15:36         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 15:56           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 16:25             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 20:54               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:08                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 23:18                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:35                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-15  9:04                       ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-16 19:28                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 21:06               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-11 22:54                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 22:19               ` Jacob Keller
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 5/5] net: fix up drivers WRT phy time stamping Köry Maincent
2023-04-06 17:59 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 0/5] net: Make MAC/PHY time stamping selectable Köry Maincent

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