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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay•com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap•net>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta•com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor•apana.org.au>,
	berrange@redhat•com, et-mgmt-tools@redhat•com,
	davem@davemloft•net, netdev@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: virt-manager broken by bind(0) in net-next.
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:17:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4984252B.8080508@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090131095640.GA29099@ioremap.net>

Evgeniy Polyakov a écrit :
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:49:00AM +0100, Eric Dumazet (dada1@cosmosbay•com) wrote:
>> It appears you are always right, I have nothing to say then.
>>
>> Stupid I am.
>>
>> I vote for plain revert of your initial patch, since you are anaware
>> of performance problems it introduces. Then, probably nobody cares
>> of my complaints, so dont worry.
> 
> Eric, do not get it soo personally :) After all it is only a matter of
> how we enjoy the process and have fun with the development.
> 
> Really, I appreciate your work and help, and likely this
> misunderstanding happened because of a bad mix of the original bug and
> this performance implication. Original bug has really nothing with what
> we discuss here. And while the performance problem with bound sockets
> creation may be visible, I did not observe it, while the idea
> implemented with this approach shows up clearly in the graph I posted.
> So I vote by both hands to further improve it by moving things around so
> that there would be no unneded cache flushes during update of this
> field.
> 

OK OK, as I said, dont worry, it was not a strong feeling from me, only
a litle bit upset, thats all.

We only need to know if the *fix* is solving Stephen problem

About performance effects of careful variable placement and percpu counter
strategy you might consult as an example :

http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0812.1/01624.html

Now, with these patches applied, try to see effect of your new bsockets field
on a network workload doing lot of socket bind()/unbind() calls...

With current kernels, you probably wont notice because of inode/dcache hot
cache lines, but it might change eventually...



  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-31 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090128212114.38be3e8c@extreme>
     [not found] ` <20090129103544.GC22110@redhat.com>
2009-01-30  5:35   ` virt-manager broken by bind(0) in net-next Stephen Hemminger
2009-01-30  8:16     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]       ` <20090130081600.GA2717-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-30 10:27         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-01-30 11:21           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-30 12:53             ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]               ` <20090130125337.GA7155-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-30 17:57                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-01-30 18:41                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-30 21:50                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-30 22:30                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-30 22:51                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                           ` <20090130225113.GA13977-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-31  0:36                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-01-31  8:35                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-31  2:52                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-01-31  8:37                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-31  9:17                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-31  9:31                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-31  9:49                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-31  9:56                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-31 10:17                                         ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2009-02-01 12:42                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-01 16:12                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-01 17:40                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-01 20:31                                                 ` David Miller
     [not found]                       ` <20090130215008.GB12210-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-01  5:58                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-01  9:07                           ` David Miller
2009-02-01 12:44                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                     ` <498349F7.4050300-fPLkHRcR87vqlBn2x/YWAg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-01  5:29                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-01-30  6:50   ` Stephen Hemminger

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