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From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public•gmane.org>
To: Masayuki Ohtake <masa-korg-ECg8zkTtlr0C6LszWs/t0g@public•gmane.org>
Cc: andrew.chih.howe.khor-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public•gmane.org,
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	kok.howg.ewe-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public•gmane.org,
	David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public•gmane.org>,
	joel.clark-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public•gmane.org,
	qi.wang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public•gmane.org
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH v3] Topcliff: Update PCH_CAN driver to 2.6.35
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:42:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CB4117C.4070207@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000c01cb69dc$5d2aaab0$66f8800a-a06+6cuVnkTSQfdrb5gaxUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>

Hi Ohtake,

On 10/12/2010 09:09 AM, Masayuki Ohtake wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang,
> 
> We have implemented our CAN driver with FIFO mode, and
> We are testing our CAN driver with FIFO mode.
> However, we have found Our CAN hardware spec is different from our anticipated.
> Our CAN HW FIFO is not common FIFO.
> Using  FIFO mode, there is possibility received packets are out-of-order.
> 
> e.g.
> Recv packet-A from NW and set to FIFO.
>   |A|
> 
> Recv packet-B from NW and set to FIFO.
>   |A|B|
> 
> Recv packet-C is about to set to FIFO
>   |A|B|(C)|
> 
> Userspace Copies A from Driver

OK, let's say the CPU or software starts processing the message FIFO.

> Userspace Copies B from Driver
>   |   |   |(C)|
> 
> packet-C set to FIFO (C is not head.)
> Recv packet-D from NW(Next packet is set to head)
>   |D|   |C|
> 
> Userspace Copies D from Driver

The software could continues searching the FIFO for valid messages. Then
it would find C first.

> Userspace Copies C from Driver
> Userspace raceived packet order is like below
> A-B-D-C

I'm still optimistic that it could be handled properly by software, it
might be tricky though.

> So, I think normal-mode is better than FIFO-mode.

To be clear. Out-of-order reception is not allowed!

> I will revert like the following spec.
>   Rx 1 Message Object
>   Tx 1 Message Object
> 
> Could you agree the above ?

See above. I agree if the software cannot assure in-order reception. But
it's not yet obvious to me that it cannot be achieved. I will have a
closer look to the manual. Just one RX message object without any
further buffering is really bad as message losses are likely to happen.

Wolfgang.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-12  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4C9C7C6F.1000003@dsn.okisemi.com>
     [not found] ` <4C9C7C6F.1000003-ECg8zkTtlr0C6LszWs/t0g@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27  8:38   ` [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH v3] Topcliff: Update PCH_CAN driver to 2.6.35 Wolfgang Grandegger
2010-09-30  9:10   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]     ` <4CA4541F.5040804-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-30 18:50       ` David Miller
2010-10-01 10:02     ` Masayuki Ohtake
     [not found]       ` <000401cb614f$c932c750$66f8800a-a06+6cuVnkTSQfdrb5gaxUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-01 12:40         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2010-10-05 10:21           ` Masayuki Ohtake
2010-10-05 11:08             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2010-10-05 12:09               ` Masayuki Ohtake
     [not found]                 ` <002e01cb6486$2ed72cc0$66f8800a-a06+6cuVnkTSQfdrb5gaxUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-05 18:45                   ` David Miller
2010-10-06  3:07                     ` Masayuki Ohtake
     [not found]                       ` <000b01cb6503$962bc7f0$66f8800a-a06+6cuVnkTSQfdrb5gaxUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-06  3:09                         ` David Miller
     [not found]                           ` <20101005.200904.71120150.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-06  9:12                             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2010-10-12  7:09                               ` Masayuki Ohtake
     [not found]                                 ` <000c01cb69dc$5d2aaab0$66f8800a-a06+6cuVnkTSQfdrb5gaxUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-12  7:42                                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2010-10-12  7:56                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2010-10-13  4:23                                     ` Masayuki Ohtake
     [not found]                                       ` <000701cb6a8e$60de6900$66f8800a-a06+6cuVnkTSQfdrb5gaxUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-13  7:38                                         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2010-10-13 10:09     ` Masayuki Ohtake
     [not found]       ` <004a01cb6abe$c41a9cc0$66f8800a-a06+6cuVnkTSQfdrb5gaxUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-13 11:08         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2010-10-13 12:05           ` Masayuki Ohtake
2010-09-24 10:24 Masayuki Ohtak

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