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From: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver•com>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches•com>
Cc: davem@davemloft•net, netdev@vger•kernel.org,
	Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel•com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/15] RFC: create drivers/net/legacy for ISA, EISA, MCA drivers
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:26:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CCB3BF1.7070000@windriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1288316896.1836.41.camel@Joe-Laptop>

On 10-10-28 09:48 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 21:19 -0400, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
>> The drivers/net dir has a lot of files - originally there were
>> no subdirs, but at least now subdirs are being used effectively.
>> But the original drivers from 10+ years ago are still right
>> there at the top.  This series creates a drivers/net/legacy dir.
> 
> Hi Paul.
> 
> I like this idea.
> 
> I suggest a bit of a further grouping by using a
> drivers/net/ethernet directory and putting those
> legacy drivers in a new subdirectory
> drivers/net/ethernet/legacy.

That is a substantially larger change, since you'd now be
relocating nearly every remaining driver, i.e. all the
relatively modern 100M and GigE drivers.  Plus what do you
do with the sb1000 - create drivers/cablemodem/legacy
just for one file?  Or the ethernet drivers already in
existing subdirs, like arm and pcmcia -- do we move those?

With this, I tried to aim for a significant gain (close to 1/3
less files) within what I felt was a reasonable sized change
set that had a chance of getting an overall OK from folks.
Giant "flag-day" type mammoth changesets are a PITA for all.

> 
>> The initial target is things like ISA/EISA/MCA drivers, and with
>> that alone, we can get close to 90 files out of drivers/net.
>> Plus, by having a semi-defined description for legacy as being
>> "drivers more than 10 years old" we'll always have a destination
>> for drivers as they fall out of maintainership and use.
> 
> I think legacy is "old and not sold or used much anymore".

I tried to stick to having both, ie. old + not used much,
in what I chose for my initial group.   Where "old" is
meant to apply to the hardware, and not to the driver. 

> 
> I believe you're not moving 3c59x as that's relatively
> still popular even though it's nearly 15 years old.
> 
> Or maybe that was just an oversight...

I didn't want to include any drivers in the initial group
that I thought might sidetrack the issue by being contentious
(clearly I was off by one) -- the point being, that once the
base infrastructure and initial group of (almost) universally
agreed upon ones is in, more can be discussed and added later,
as appropriate.

Paul.

> 
> 
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-29 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-29  1:19 [PATCH 0/15] RFC: create drivers/net/legacy for ISA, EISA, MCA drivers Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 01/15] net: introduce legacy dir to absorb 10Mbit, ISA, EISA drivers Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 02/15] 3c501: relocate ancient 8 bit ISA driver to legacy dir Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 03/15] de6xx: relocate ancient parallel port eth drivers to legacy Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 04/15] sun3: Relocate the sun3 specific lance/83596 " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 05/15] dec netdev: relocate DIGITAL based " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  4:21   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  4:29     ` David Miller
2010-10-29  4:54       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  5:46         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  5:53           ` David Miller
2010-10-29  5:47         ` David Miller
2010-10-29  5:50           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  5:53             ` David Miller
2010-10-29  6:37               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 06/15] netdev: relocate i8258x and i8259x " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 07/15] lance: relocate legacy 7990 " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 08/15] netdev: relocate toplevel 8390 based drivers to legacy dir Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 09/15] netdev: relocate remaining ISA 3Com cards " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 10/15] netdev: relocate more one-off drivers to the " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 11/15] netdev: kill off the concept of NET_VENDOR_FOO Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 12/15] netdev: relocate sb1000 ISA cable modem driver to legacy Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 13/15] netdev: kill off NET_ISA Kconfig option Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 14/15] MAINTAINERS: updates for new drivers/net/legacy dir Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 15/15] netdev: relocate LICENSE.SRC to legacy Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:48 ` [PATCH 0/15] RFC: create drivers/net/legacy for ISA, EISA, MCA drivers Joe Perches
2010-10-29  9:40   ` David Lamparter
2010-10-29 10:13     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29 21:26   ` Paul Gortmaker [this message]
2010-10-29 22:08     ` Joe Perches
2010-10-30  0:01       ` Jeff Kirsher
2010-11-04 21:20         ` Paul Gortmaker
2010-11-05  2:28           ` Jeff Kirsher
2010-11-05 12:51             ` Paul Gortmaker
2010-11-18 23:52             ` Joe Perches
2010-11-19  0:34               ` Jeff Kirsher
     [not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.01.1012161253560.3000@obet.zrqbmnf.qr>
2010-12-16 12:22   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17  9:51     ` Jeff Kirsher

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