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From: Arvid Brodin <arvid.brodin@enea•com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta•com>
Cc: <netdev@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bridge: HSR support
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:17:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EA5738B.8080008@enea.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E94D67A.9060207@enea.com>

Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:25:08 +0200
> Arvid Brodin <arvid.brodin@enea•com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to add support for HSR ("High-availability Seamless Redundancy",
>> IEC-62439-3) to the bridge code. With HSR, all connected units have two network
>> ports and are connected in a ring. All new Ethernet packets are sent on both
>> ports (or passed through if the current unit is not the originating unit). The
>> same packet is never passed twice. Non-HSR units are not allowed in the ring.
>>
>> This gives instant, reconfiguration-free failover.
>>
>> I'd like your input on how to design the user interface. To me it seems natural
>> to use bridge-utils, which of course today supports STP.
>>
>> One solution is to simply add an "hsr" command:
>>
>> # brctl hsr <bridge> on|off
>>
>> But HSR is mutually exclusive to other modes, and I think that STP and standard
>> bridge mode are mutually exclusive, too? Perhaps it would be better (more user-
>> friendly) to 
>>
>> # brctl type <bridge> standard|stp|hsr
>>
>> ?
>>
>> 'brctl stp <bridge> on|off' would have to be kept for compatibility, but could
>> be a simple wrapper for 'brctl type <bridge> stp|standard'
>>
>> What do you think about this?
>>
> 
> Why is it a bridge thing and not a standalone or bonding (or the new team
> device feature? Wouldn't users want to use it without all the stuff
> related to bridging. The fact that it doesn't work with STP is a big
> red flag that it doesn't belong in the bridge.

Ok, having read up some more on this it looks like STP is a standardised part of
bridging, so I guess you're right. 


I need to do two things:

1) Bind two network interfaces into one (say, eth0 & eth1 => hsr0). Frames sent on
   hsr0 should get an HSR tag (including the correct EtherType) and go out on both
   eth0 and eth1.

2) Ingress frames on eth0 & eth1, with EtherType 0x88fb, should be captured and 
   handled specially (either received on hsr0 or forwarded to the other bound 
   physical interface).

Any ideas on the best way to implement this -- what's the nicest place to "hook
into" for this?


-- 
Arvid Brodin
Enea Services Stockholm AB

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-24 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4E948A04.8060400@enea.com>
     [not found] ` <20111011112821.28cd3e51@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>
2011-10-11 23:51   ` bridge: HSR support Arvid Brodin
2011-10-12 13:28     ` David Lamparter
2011-10-12 14:24       ` Arvid Brodin
2011-10-24 14:17     ` Arvid Brodin [this message]
2011-10-28 15:34       ` Arvid Brodin
2011-10-28 15:54         ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-10-28 16:36           ` Arvid Brodin
2011-12-06 23:23           ` Arvid Brodin
2011-12-06 23:27             ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-12-07 18:30               ` Arvid Brodin
2011-12-07 19:59                 ` Jay Vosburgh
2011-12-08 14:45                   ` Arvid Brodin
2011-11-21 16:52         ` Arvid Brodin
2012-01-06 18:11       ` Arvid Brodin
2012-01-12 18:02         ` bridge: HSR support - possible recursive locking? Arvid Brodin

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