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From: Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom•com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation•org>,
	Sander Eikelenboom <linux@eikelenboom•it>
Cc: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent•org.uk>,
	Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail•com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic•com>,
	"Berg, Johannes" <johannes.berg@intel•com>,
	"Grumbach, Emmanuel" <emmanuel.grumbach@intel•com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org>,
	"ilw@linux•intel.com" <ilw@linux•intel.com>,
	"netdev@vger•kernel.org" <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	"linux-wireless@vger•kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger•kernel.org>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver•com>,
	Avinash Patil <avinashapatil@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: [cfg80211 / iwlwifi] setting wireless regulatory domain doesn't work.
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:16:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52B167F6.5060209@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxQg6=MAWEkEGz64Hz8OawvPyX=fpBOjY8cGBL5XgB9WQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/17/2013 11:06 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> We have literally had this *exact* same issue with firmware loading.
> Network drivers shouldn't try to load firmware at module load time.
> Same deal.

It is kind of a chicken and egg problem for (wireless) networking
drivers. To get IFF_UP from the network layer you have to register a
netdevice. For wireless drivers this means you have to register a wiphy
device with cfg80211 which flags capabilities and optionally are custom
regulatory domain. That information depends on the device and firmware
used. And there we have a full circle.

Regards,
Arend

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-18  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-18 17:43 [cfg80211 / iwlwifi] setting wireless regulatory domain doesn't work Sander Eikelenboom
     [not found] ` <1507831110.20131018194349-6SM94LqRVpn6gRhOQ7JHfg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 12:28   ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-11 15:17     ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-11 15:38       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-11 16:53         ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-11 17:14           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-11 17:28             ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-11 17:53               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-11 18:02                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-11 18:11                 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-11 18:38                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-11 19:06                     ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-18 18:54                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-16 11:22                     ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-16 11:37                       ` Arend van Spriel
2013-12-16 12:56                         ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-17  2:17                           ` Julian Calaby
     [not found]                             ` <CAGRGNgXHemM2FfnXgW5RbzhFT+9SfUfVkjdysK3+=_u3hWSacw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-17  9:45                               ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-17 20:33                                 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-17 21:27                                   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-17 21:49                                     ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-17 22:06                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-18  9:16                                         ` Arend van Spriel [this message]
     [not found]                                           ` <52B167F6.5060209-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-18  9:18                                             ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2013-12-18  9:25                                           ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-18  9:26                                           ` Johannes Berg
2013-12-18 10:48                                             ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-18 19:43                                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-18 19:45                                                 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-19  4:57                                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-17 23:35                                       ` Julian Calaby
2013-12-18  7:50                                       ` Pontus Fuchs
2013-12-18  8:58                                         ` Arend van Spriel
2013-12-18 19:27                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-18 18:29                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-12-18 18:54                         ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-18 19:42                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]         ` <CAJwzM1nwFa7z5gwh42aj39M2dxVXnuecDrhQkVyL+DDFAXwwbg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-12-11 17:00           ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-11 17:17             ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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