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From: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall•com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt•edu
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen•de>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber•org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org>,
	bridge@lists•linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Revert 462fb2af9788a82a534f8184abfde31574e1cfa0 (bridge : Sanitize skb before it enters the IP stack)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:40:25 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <537C5F71.6000204@davidnewall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14456.1400561749@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On 20/05/14 14:25, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt•edu wrote:
> So yes, we*do*  need to do something sensible there - either frag the packet
> on the way out, or something.

I think the problem is that a bridge cannot be used across incompatible 
media.  That's the job of a router.

A bridge should act like a bridge, not a router.  Fragmenting the packet 
is wrong; that's IP's job.  Dropping the packet is also arguably wrong; 
that's the real device-driver's job.  What seems right to me is to act 
like a bridge and forward packets by looking inside of them *no more 
than is necessary*.  Looking beyond MAC address is perhaps too much.

We can finish the job of processing IP options, or at least in this 
scenario, but that seems wrong-headed and invites more work as more 
problems are discovered; or we could remove the half-hearted attempt it 
currently does and leave the bridge as a simple bridge.

This problem wouldn't occur if all devices in a bridge were required to 
be compatible media; particularly identical MTU.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-11 14:41 Bad checksum on bridge with IP options David Newall
2014-05-11 19:42 ` Lukas Tribus
2014-05-12  8:14   ` David Newall
2014-05-12 10:15     ` Lukas Tribus
2014-05-12 10:25       ` David Newall
2014-05-12 10:31         ` Lukas Tribus
2014-05-12 10:48           ` David Newall
2014-05-12 13:23 ` David Newall
2014-05-12 13:51   ` Florian Westphal
2014-05-12 14:19     ` David Newall
2014-05-12 18:54   ` Lukas Tribus
2014-05-12 23:46     ` David Newall
2014-05-14 13:08       ` David Newall
2014-05-16 14:33         ` Revert 462fb2af9788a82a534f8184abfde31574e1cfa0 (bridge : Sanitize skb before it enters the IP stack) David Newall
2014-05-16 15:19           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-16 15:23             ` David Newall
2014-05-16 15:24             ` David Newall
2014-05-19 12:58           ` David Newall
2014-05-19 14:01             ` Florian Westphal
2014-05-19 14:19               ` David Newall
2014-05-19 17:09                 ` Florian Westphal
2014-05-19 20:49                   ` Bart De Schuymer
2014-05-21  7:49                     ` David Newall
2014-05-21 18:51                       ` Bart De Schuymer
2014-05-21 20:18                         ` David Miller
2014-05-22 18:57                           ` Bart De Schuymer
2014-05-24 18:00                             ` David Miller
2014-05-24  5:56                           ` David Newall
2014-05-24 17:43                             ` David Miller
2014-05-25  2:32                               ` David Newall
2014-05-25  3:02                                 ` David Miller
2014-05-25  6:37                                   ` David Newall
2014-05-27  8:55                                 ` David Laight
2014-05-29 22:34                                 ` David Miller
2014-05-30  9:17                                   ` David Newall
2014-05-31  0:46                                     ` David Miller
2014-05-31  6:13                                       ` David Newall
2014-05-31  6:37                                         ` David Miller
2014-05-22  3:50                         ` David Newall
2014-05-22 18:57                           ` Bart De Schuymer
2014-05-20  3:57                   ` David Newall
2014-05-20  4:55                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2014-05-20 16:05                   ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-05-21  8:10                   ` David Newall [this message]
2014-05-21 20:14                     ` David Miller
2014-05-22 20:06           ` Bandan Das

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