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From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid•com>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox•net>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion•org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft•net>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital•net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel•org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google•com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium•org>,
	linux-api@vger•kernel.org, netdev@vger•kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 1/3] bpf: enable non-root eBPF programs
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:59:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5618007B.70907@plumgrid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5617FD1C.2030702@iogearbox.net>

On 10/9/15 10:45 AM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 10/09/2015 07:30 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> ...
>> Openstack use case is different. There it will be prog_type_sched_cls
>> that can mangle packets, change skb metadata, etc under TC framework.
>> These are not suitable for all users and this patch leaves
>> them root-only. If you're proposing to add CAP_BPF_TC to let containers
>> use them without being CAP_SYS_ADMIN, then I agree, it is useful, but
>> needs a lot more safety analysis on tc side.
>
> Well, I think if so, then this would need to be something generic for
> tc instead of being specific to a single (out of various) entities
> inside the tc framework, but I currently doubt that this makes much
> sense. If we allow to operate already at that level, then restricting
> to CAP_SYS_ADMIN makes more sense in that specific context/subsys to me.

Let me rephrase. I think it would be useful, but I have my doubts that
it's manageable, since analyzing dark corners of TC is not trivial.
Probably easier to allow prog_type_sched_cls/act under CAP_NET_ADMIN
and grant that to trusted apps. Though only tiny bit better than
requiring CAP_SYS_ADMIN.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-09 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-08  5:23 [PATCH v2 net-next 0/3] bpf: unprivileged Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/3] bpf: charge user for creation of BPF maps and programs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 3/3] bpf: add unprivileged bpf tests Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08 17:46   ` Kees Cook
     [not found]     ` <CAGXu5j+QA2uyvrNteoP1zQ5Cx6tAjVxR2zqmCi8148jS+_YW4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 17:55       ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found] ` <1444281803-24274-1-git-send-email-ast-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08  5:23   ` [PATCH v2 net-next 1/3] bpf: enable non-root eBPF programs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08 17:45     ` Kees Cook
2015-10-08 18:20     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]       ` <1444328452.3935641.405110585.76554E06-2RFepEojUI2N1INw9kWLP6GC3tUn3ZHUQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 22:05         ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]           ` <5616E8A8.5020809-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-09 11:45             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-09 17:30               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-09 17:45                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-09 17:59                   ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2015-10-09  9:28         ` Thomas Graf
2015-10-13  2:22   ` [PATCH v2 net-next 0/3] bpf: unprivileged David Miller

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