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From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid•com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel•org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft•net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello•nl>,
	Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei•com>, He Kuang <hekuang@huawei•com>,
	Kaixu Xia <xiakaixu@huawei•com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox•net>,
	netdev@vger•kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] bpf: make tracing helpers gpl only
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 11:17:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <562D1CD6.6020307@plumgrid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151025091411.GE24337@gmail.com>

On 10/25/15 2:14 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> so I don't know the netfilter ones, but in particular the tracing ones I'm sure
> should be gpl-only. Do we really, really want proprietary modules mucking with
> such internals??

of course, not. Therefore bpf_probe_read() was gpl_only from very
beginning. Same goes to bpf_trace_printk() and bpf_ktime_get_ns().
and after this patch the only remaining non-gpl tracing helpers will be
bpf_get_current_pid_tgid()/uid_gid()/comm()
and imo it's fine.

On the networking side the helpers are non-gpl, since all of them are
generic. They don't mess with kernel, but examine/modify the packet.
Just like cBPF can read the packet data, get_processor_id, get_random,
eBPF can do the same plus write into the packet, compute checksum,
redirect, push/pop vlan.

When we introduce eBPF for seccomp, I would argue that helpers on that
side should be non-gpl as well, otherwise people will try to add
features to cBPF instead of moving to eBPF.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-25 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-23 21:58 [PATCH net-next] bpf: make tracing helpers gpl only Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-25  9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-25 18:17   ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2015-10-27  4:54 ` David Miller

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