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From: ebiederm@xmission•com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack•org>
Cc: rsa <ravi.mlists@gmail•com>, netdev@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: switching network namespace midway
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:37:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ip9zqqlv.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121024212116.GG15034@kvack.org> (Benjamin LaHaise's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:21:16 -0400")

Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack•org> writes:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:11:14PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> rsa <ravi.mlists@gmail•com> writes:
>> 
>> > Assuming I have a tunnel interface where two route lookups are done --
>> > one for innter
>> > packet and the other for outer -- do you see any issues in switching
>> > the network
>> > namespace prior to second route lookup (and restore to the original namespace
>> > after the second lookup is done)?
>> >
>> > If so, are there any other calls other than sk_change_net() needed?
>> 
>> In general sk_change_net is a bad idea.
>> 
>> Most likely what you want to do is simply memorize both struct net's
>> that you care about and perform the routing lookup as appropriate.
>> 
>> Certainly you don't want to be calling sk_change_net for every packet
>> that goes through your tunnel.
>
> I've actually done this with L2TP.  The packets coming into the system from 
> the tunnel are received on one UDP socket in one "struct net", but the 
> decapsulated packets are received on a "struct net_device" that is in a 
> different "struct net".  No special coding is required -- just move the 
> tunnel's net_device into another namespace after creation and it works as 
> expected.  Using sk_change_net() would be full of races and is really not 
> required for the vast majority of use cases.

Yes.  Although L2TP is not an example of code I would copy.  Any other
tunnel would be better.  I haven't looked closely at L2TP but it keeps
popping up as a poster child for small little network namespace bugs
that I don't want to think about.

Last I looked to use L2TP it required a magic userspace that I couldn't
find and I haven't cared enough to write.  Ben would you be interested
in helping flush out the network namespace bugs out of L2TP?

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-25  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-23 17:49 switching network namespace midway rsa
2012-10-24 21:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-24 21:21   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-10-25  1:37     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2012-10-25 14:38       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-10-25 16:21         ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-10-28  5:43           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-29 14:23             ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-10-30  0:21               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-30  8:55                 ` James Chapman
2012-10-25 15:12     ` rsa
2012-10-25 15:29     ` rsa
2012-10-25 15:59       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-10-25 16:15         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-02  2:25           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-11-02  6:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-02 14:03               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-11-02 20:45                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-24 14:13                   ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/2] sit: allow to switch netns during encap/decap Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-24 14:13                     ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/2] dev: introduce dev_cleanup_skb() Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-24 18:13                       ` Ben Hutchings
2013-06-24 19:05                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-24 14:13                     ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/2] sit: add support of x-netns Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-24 19:28                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-24 21:11                         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-24 22:42                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-25 14:10                             ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-25 14:24                               ` [PATCH v2 net-next 0/2] sit: allow to switch netns during encap/decap Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-25 14:24                                 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 1/2] dev: introduce skb_scrub_packet() Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-25 14:24                                 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/2] sit: add support of x-netns Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-25 23:56                                   ` David Miller
2013-06-26  1:35                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-26  5:48                                       ` David Miller
2013-06-26 10:03                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-26 10:22                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-26 12:15                                             ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-26 14:11                                               ` [PATCH v3 net-next 0/2] sit: allow to switch netns during encap/decap Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-26 14:11                                                 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 1/2] dev: introduce skb_scrub_packet() Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-26 14:11                                                 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 2/2] sit: add support of x-netns Nicolas Dichtel
2013-06-28  5:36                                                 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 0/2] sit: allow to switch netns during encap/decap David Miller
2013-07-03 15:00                                                   ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] ipip/ip6tnl: " Nicolas Dichtel
2013-07-03 15:00                                                     ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] sit: fix tunnel update via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2013-07-03 15:00                                                     ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] ipip: add x-netns support Nicolas Dichtel
2013-07-03 15:00                                                     ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] ip6tnl: " Nicolas Dichtel
2013-07-04 21:56                                                     ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] ipip/ip6tnl: allow to switch netns during encap/decap David Miller
2013-08-13 15:51                                                       ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] " Nicolas Dichtel
2013-08-13 15:51                                                         ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] dev: move skb_scrub_packet() after eth_type_trans() Nicolas Dichtel
2013-08-13 15:51                                                         ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] ipv4 tunnels: use net_eq() helper to check netns Nicolas Dichtel
2013-08-13 15:51                                                         ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] ipip: add x-netns support Nicolas Dichtel
2013-08-13 15:51                                                         ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] ip6tnl: " Nicolas Dichtel
2013-08-15  8:01                                                         ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] ipip/ip6tnl: allow to switch netns during encap/decap David Miller
2013-06-26 13:49                                     ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/2] sit: add support of x-netns Nicolas Dichtel

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